Towered
Superstar
I can confirm this - it was mentioned on the news last night that the Michigan facility is exclusively supplying the US.
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I can confirm this - it was mentioned on the news last night that the Michigan facility is exclusively supplying the US.
afransen
Senior Member
Frankly, they need the vaccine more than we do. Every US state has higher infection rates than Ontario, excepting Hawaii.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
I agree with this. I'm not in a rush to be vaccinated, and not because I don't believe in vaccines.
I just wanted to know the real and actual reasons why they couldn't be shipped from Michigan and hoped they'd be reasonable.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Also keep in mind that the contractual obligation wasn't breached - and the contracts were signed before the vaccines candidate was actually deemed safe and effective. Delays (a few weeks!) or not - it does not negate the need to hunker down.
On the matter of domestic vaccine production being the solution - the Australia is a good example of how this is still a gamble:
globalnews.ca
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On the matter of domestic vaccine production being the solution - the Australia is a good example of how this is still a gamble:
Australia abandons homegrown coronavirus vaccine that produced HIV false positives - National | Globalnews.ca
Its failure was a major blow to Australian vaccination plans to become self-sufficient.
globalnews.ca
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AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
We already blocked bulk export of medications:
We aren't as non-protectionist as you think we are.
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Northern Light
Superstar
That really isn't about protectionism.
That's about a Big Pharma Lobby that enjoys grossly inflated prices in the U.S. market where they make a significant share of their profit.
If those same drugs, from those same makers is sold at lower prices in Canada (which they typically are, due to both price controls and bulk purchasing), and then re-exported to the U.S. market, it would under cut those same companies U.S. profits.
So our controls on export are about doing 'Big Pharma' a favour.
A favour in part, because to my understanding there was talk of limiting Canadian supply if action wasn't taken.
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AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
It doesn't matter what the driver is - we are still protecting our interest. This is contrary to the belief that we as a country don't do so - that only the US would.
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afransen
Senior Member
I imagine we are required to prevent bulk export as part of our negotiated pricing with pharma companies.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Of course - but see my edit. We have negotiated a lower price, and we as a country will enact policies that will ensure that (rightly) stays. It's a response to the mistaken belief that only US is "selfish" enough to have exclusive agreements that shut out others.
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zang
Senior Member
Good gawd, the man is an idiot. I picture him showing up with a pickup truck with a bed half full of paint cans and junk.
Ontario premier offers to drive to U.S. himself to pick up more COVID-19 vaccines
Premier Doug Ford offered to drive an ultra-cold refrigerated truck to Kalamazoo, Mich., in an effort to secure thousands of doses of the Pfizer vaccine for Ontario – an offer that the premier said was turned down by the drug manufacturer.
toronto.ctvnews.ca
afransen
Senior Member
Just get some dry ice and load 'er up.Good gawd, the man is an idiot. I picture him showing up with a pickup truck with a bed half full of paint cans and junk.
Ontario premier offers to drive to U.S. himself to pick up more COVID-19 vaccines
Premier Doug Ford offered to drive an ultra-cold refrigerated truck to Kalamazoo, Mich., in an effort to secure thousands of doses of the Pfizer vaccine for Ontario – an offer that the premier said was turned down by the drug manufacturer.toronto.ctvnews.ca
Yikes. I doubt he's this dumb--he's just grandstanding.
Northern Light
Superstar
Good gawd, the man is an idiot. I picture him showing up with a pickup truck with a bed half full of paint cans and junk.
Ontario premier offers to drive to U.S. himself to pick up more COVID-19 vaccines
Premier Doug Ford offered to drive an ultra-cold refrigerated truck to Kalamazoo, Mich., in an effort to secure thousands of doses of the Pfizer vaccine for Ontario – an offer that the premier said was turned down by the drug manufacturer.toronto.ctvnews.ca
While the idea is silly; and does nothing to enhance the Premier in my eyes............I'm not sure he's so foolish as to seriously believe what he's saying.
I think he understands the retail politics of a certain portion of his constituency will buy that 'he tried'.
zang
Senior Member
Oh, I know he doesn't actually believe that he can do that. It comes across as desperate gesture. It's this type of thing that really reminds me of Trump; the *need* to get a win of some sort in a time of crisis, even from the real dullards in the audience who think that's all you have to do.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Good gawd, the man is an idiot. I picture him showing up with a pickup truck with a bed half full of paint cans and junk.
Ontario premier offers to drive to U.S. himself to pick up more COVID-19 vaccines
Premier Doug Ford offered to drive an ultra-cold refrigerated truck to Kalamazoo, Mich., in an effort to secure thousands of doses of the Pfizer vaccine for Ontario – an offer that the premier said was turned down by the drug manufacturer.toronto.ctvnews.ca
Will he be carrying firecrackers in that truck?
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Towered
Superstar
Ah yes, the classic populist, salt-of-the-earth, every-man "get 'er done" approach to politics marketed squarely at the unwashed dullards and bellends stupid enough to be impressed by it (and there's lots of them). "Ford Nation" will eat it up, just like they did with his anti-intellectual brother.