picard102
Senior Member
It took them a little over 1.5 to get to this point. It's still an eternity.
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PM Justin Trudeau's Canada
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Brands
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Over half the world's population are going to have elections in 2024. Unless you are Modi or Putin, incumbent governments are in trouble.
Hopefully the Liberals use their time, to get their shit together.
Hopefully the Liberals use their time, to get their shit together.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Took a lot longer than 1.5 years to get here. How long have we had a housing shortage? How long have immigration levels (including students) been above target?
picard102
Senior Member
The polling only got here in the last 1.5 years.
kEiThZ
Superstar
The issues moved the polling here. And those issues aren't being resolved anytime soon. They have barely begun even working on these issues. I don't expect they'll recover. I think the question now is whether they'll be the Official Opposition after the election or that crown will be taken by the NDP.
Northern Light
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The Star out this morning with a curious piece.
A professor in Ottawa obtained a report to cabinet from 2020 outlining the options for different levels of immigration, one which included the option of going to up to 1M per year though the economic-class/points system.
So we now see some of the thought that went into boosting already high levels of immigration.........
Here's the thing w/the piece, it notes the Liberals didn't pick the 1M option and almost comes off suggesting this was moderate.
Except, we did hit and exceed the 1M; while cabinet approved the lower mainstream immigration total ( still a record high), its clear the system was gamed to have foreign students and TFWs make up the difference between the original target and the approved one.
www.thestar.com
So, in the end, we took in more people than the high end option in the cabinet docs; but with none of the resources the cabinet docs said would be needed if that option were picked.
I don't know that I can be anymore irritated by the Trudeau gov'ts choices here than I already was............. I am irritated w/the author of the piece for misrepresenting what happened though sins of omission.
A professor in Ottawa obtained a report to cabinet from 2020 outlining the options for different levels of immigration, one which included the option of going to up to 1M per year though the economic-class/points system.
So we now see some of the thought that went into boosting already high levels of immigration.........
Here's the thing w/the piece, it notes the Liberals didn't pick the 1M option and almost comes off suggesting this was moderate.
Except, we did hit and exceed the 1M; while cabinet approved the lower mainstream immigration total ( still a record high), its clear the system was gamed to have foreign students and TFWs make up the difference between the original target and the approved one.
A plan to add one million permanent residents to Canada in a single year was among ideas floated behind the scenes, government docs show
A plan drafted by a deputy minister laid out three options for how many permanent residents the country could accept in 2023.
www.thestar.com
So, in the end, we took in more people than the high end option in the cabinet docs; but with none of the resources the cabinet docs said would be needed if that option were picked.
I don't know that I can be anymore irritated by the Trudeau gov'ts choices here than I already was............. I am irritated w/the author of the piece for misrepresenting what happened though sins of omission.
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kEiThZ
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I just don't think the LPC cares anymore. I think they are now between solidifying the programs they put in place and simply setting up the next government to have as painful a time as possible in office.
jje1000
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When has that stopped the Star from pushing a narrative?
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OTTAWA—Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly says Ottawa will commit $1 million to support survivors of sexually-based attacks in Israel on Oct. 7.
"We believe Israeli women. And we stand with them in their fight for justice," Joly announced on social media, adding support from the RCMP has also been offered to assist in investigations of the reported crimes.
www.thestar.com
Why on earth is the Canadian government providing this kind of (undoubtedly necessary) service to citizens of another fairly wealthy country? I understand being even-handed and 'fair' but ....
"We believe Israeli women. And we stand with them in their fight for justice," Joly announced on social media, adding support from the RCMP has also been offered to assist in investigations of the reported crimes.
Ottawa commits funding to help survivors of sexually-based attacks in Israel
"We believe Israeli women. And we stand with them in their fight for justice," Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly announced.
www.thestar.com
Why on earth is the Canadian government providing this kind of (undoubtedly necessary) service to citizens of another fairly wealthy country? I understand being even-handed and 'fair' but ....
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afransen
Senior Member
I'm not sure why it is so difficult to accept that there are no heroes in this conflict, and that we shouldn't take sides.
gabe
Senior Member
We need skilled trades workers, doctors.,etc. but the government keeps importing low skilled workers to fill minimum wage jobs.
nationalpost.com
Half of all Canadians say there are too many immigrants: poll
Concerns over immigration are mostly about the economy rather than fears about immigrants changing Canada's social fabric, the poll suggests
nationalpost.com
kEiThZ
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We need skilled trades workers, doctors.,etc. but the government keeps importing low skilled workers to fill minimum wage jobs.
Half of all Canadians say there are too many immigrants: poll
Concerns over immigration are mostly about the economy rather than fears about immigrants changing Canada's social fabric, the poll suggests
Breaking a half century long consensus on diverse immigration is quite the achievement for Trudeau.
jje1000
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afransen
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I'm not sure how closely folks have been following the investigation into the ArriveCan app debacle. The committee exploration of the issue has laid bare a culture of consultants, apparently quite often who are moonlighting civil servants, bidding for government contracts and subcontracting nearly all the work. In addition, much of the controls, due diligence etc. these consulting outfits were to be adhering to were ignored. There is a general hollowing out of civil service competency, compounded by a culture of diffuse accountability, and most worryingly a inclination to grift if not engage in outright corruption. It seems this is much broader problem than app development and the federal government. I imagine similar dynamics were at play in the orders-of-magnitude larger procurement for new surface combatants ballooning from the original estimate of $26B to upwards of $80B. And perhaps this might help to explain Toronto and Ontario's ability to spend more and get less for transit investment than almost any other jurisdiction. If we dug into Metrolinx's affairs, would we uncover similar malfeasance?