Ottawa Transit Developments

[smallspy]

Well, that train no longer is being made, so we can't order more.

Thankfully 30 metre LRVs that are configured with 3 trucks and 5 modules are very readily available from a host of different manufacturers, not the least of which is Alstom.

What is, and always has been more important is the fact that the network that they run on is designed and built to a modern standard that requires trains to be minimally customized for operation. As opposed to the Toronto's downtown network, which requires bespoke rolling stock.

Dan

 

[nfitz]

What is, and always has been more important is the fact that the network that they run on is designed and built to a modern standard that requires trains to be minimally customized for operation. As opposed to the Toronto's downtown network, which requires bespoke rolling stock.

LRVs on Toronto's downtown network seem to be more reliable and better-engineered than the Citadis ones used on multiple networks.

 

[urbanclient]

"Ottawa LRT chaos: Passengers walk on tracks after train stalls"

These Citadis Spirits are garbage. At least the Toronto streetcars are decent.

 

[robmausser]

"Ottawa LRT chaos: Passengers walk on tracks after train stalls"

These Citadis Spirits are garbage. At least the Toronto streetcars are decent.

Yep, and the Flexity Freedoms are their cousin, and working great on the Valley Line and ION. Should never have cancelled the order for the Finch LRT, the line wasn't ready in time anyways!

Its funny because during the time, everyone was shitting on Bombardier (if you recall the whole streetcar recall with the bent frames) and glorifying Alstom. At least Bombardier identified the problems and fixed them. Alstom just seemed to be happy with shipping us crap.

 

[nfitz]

Its funny because during the time, everyone was shitting on Bombardier (if you recall the whole streetcar recall with the bent frames) and glorifying Alstom. At least Bombardier identified the problems and fixed them. Alstom just seemed to be happy with shipping us crap.

Very true. Though the huge cost increase to the vehicle purchase by using Citadis vehicles had some shitting on Metrolinx, not Bombardier.

Interesting that there doesn't seem to be a deterioration in quality now that Alstom is running Thunder Bay, judging by the brand new 60 Flexities.

 

[ownthesky]

Is there a legislative requirement forcing Ottawa to stick with 100% low floor trams going forward? Would it be possible for Ottawa to purchase 70% low floor trams with more robust bogies (ex Alstom’s European models or the Siemens S700) or is that an impossibility with with Ontario’s AODA requirements?

 

[smallspy]

Is there a legislative requirement forcing Ottawa to stick with 100% low floor trams going forward? Would it be possible for Ottawa to purchase 70% low floor trams with more robust bogies (ex Alstom’s European models or the Siemens S700) or is that an impossibility with with Ontario’s AODA requirements?

AODA only dictates that the vehicle be accessible to all - not how much of it is accessible. Unless OC Transpo seems to require otherwise, there is seemingly no reason why they should discount the S700 - or whatever is on the market at that point - when it comes time to order replacement stock.

Dan

 

[Bojaxs]

"Mechanics can only fix one axel per day..." (time stamp, 0:20)

Good lord!

Google AI is telling me;

- There are 10 axels per individual Citadis.
- 41 trains were taken out of service for axel repairs.

10 * 41 = 410

So that means even if OC Transpo work every single day, including weekends and holidays, it'll still take over a year to fix all the axels. And that's not including the trains that are currently still in service that will eventually have to have their axels fixed as well.

No wonder they delayed the opening of the eastern extension.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

AODA only dictates that the vehicle be accessible to all - not how much of it is accessible. Unless OC Transpo seems to require otherwise, there is seemingly no reason why they should discount the S700 - or whatever is on the market at that point - when it comes time to order replacement stock.

Dan

No, but Ottawa does have a ban on Siemans due to fallout over the old cancelled North South lrt