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Novel Coronavirus COVID-19 (nCoV-2019)

From Acajack over at SSP, this news from Quebec:

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Richard White said:
I was at Wal-Mart and No Frills earlier which were both somewhat empty.

I do agree though that stores need to close. I am avoiding going into actual stores and ordering everything online whenever possible.

I now have the following at home after stocking today:

-96 Rolls of toilet paper

-5 litres of fabric softener

-11 Rolls of paper towel

-9 boxes of tissues

- 10 litres of laundry detergent

-3 Bottles of Shampoo/Conditoner

-3 bottles of body wash

-3 tubes of toothpaste

-3 bottles of face wash

The list goes on but my point is I am not waiting until the stores close to buy things. Our fridge is overflowing and so is our pantry.
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You really seem to have gone into panic mode and I assume you realise that by hoarding you could be preventing other people obtaining a reasonable supply. Frankly your shopping binge is not something I think you should be too proud of.
 
DSC said:
You really seem to have gone into panic mode and I assume you realise that by hoarding you could be preventing other people obtaining a reasonable supply. Frankly your shopping binge is not something I think you should be too proud of.
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Actually I plan ahead. My thinking was what if I am required to self-isolate. I won't have the ability to go out or answer the door for Amazon so best to stock up now before I lose the opportunity.

I wanted to ensure that in a worst case scenario I'm not left thinking.. what now.
 
DSC said:
You really seem to have gone into panic mode and I assume you realise that by hoarding you could be preventing other people obtaining a reasonable supply. Frankly your shopping binge is not something I think you should be too proud of.
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Don't be too harsh - his purchase resembles the typical suburban family paying a visit to Costco.

AoD
 
Amazon deliveries will likely be "no contact" ... mine generally are -- they ring the doorbell, and they're gone before I get there. I purchase from a zero waste grocery delivery service, and they have officially adopted a no contact policy.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Don't be too harsh - his purchase resembles the typical suburban family paying a visit to Costco.

AoD
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If he were a typical suburban family I would not be too critical but ....... When I had a house (with lots of storage) and rented cars ever few months I certainly stockpiled essentials like paper towels and laundry detergent but at the moment EVERYONE needs to have the opportunity to buy NECESSITIES and if people go crazy stockpiling they simply make others go without. Not everyone can afford to stockpile and everyone should be able to buy reasonable quantities of essentials. If we were all Richard Whites it would be 'each man for himself'
 
Jasmine18 said:
I feel border restrictions are being only looked at politically and in relation to be not like trump rather then from a public health point of view by the federal govt.

People are literally walking off planes from hard hit areas.
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You have literally gotten the quote by Dr. Allison McGeer - an infectious disease specialist at Mount Sinai basically saying that border restrictions is one of these measures that feel better than it works. (FYI, she was one of the leading ID doctors along with Dr. Donald Low - she caught SARS during 2003 in fact). I mean, how much more of a public health point of view can one get than that? Yes, yes, you are going to let me know that experts differs - sure, but at this point we already have community spread, the strategy will need to be different than focusing on the borders as if that's going to be driver of our troubles. That, and the fact that you can't seal the border when there are still many Canadians waiting to get back to the country.

AoD
 
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Jasmine18 said:
I feel border restrictions are being only looked at politically and in relation to be not like trump rather then from a public health point of view by the federal govt.

People are literally walking off planes from hard hit areas.
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Wouldn't stop people from walking off planes from hard hit areas if we copied the US model either. Their citizens are exempt from the ban.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
You have literally gotten the quote by Dr. Allison McGeer - an infectious disease specialist at Mount Sinai basically saying that border restrictions is one of these measures that feel better than it works. (FYI, she was one of the leading ID doctors - caught SARS during 2003 in fact). I mean, how much more of a public health point of view can one get than that? Yes, yes, you are going to let me know that experts differs - sure, but at this point we already have community spread, the strategy will need to be different than focusing on the borders as if that's going to be driver of our troubles. That, and the fact that you can't seal the border when there are still many Canadians waiting to get back to the country.

AoD
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Unlike the USA community spread is still very limited but with people walking off planes with no checks it will happen in time.

Country after country is putting border restrictions


Clearly these experts advising the federal govt are becoming the minority opinion around the world.
 
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picard102 said:
Wouldn't stop people from walking off planes from hard hit areas if we copied the US model either. Their citizens are exempt from the ban.
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Yes put those people on mandatory isolation ...not voluntary


We are dealing with this in a very nice and passive Canadian way.⁹


I will say the politic situation will force Trudeau to close things down from the public and premiers.
 
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Admiral Beez said:
Where? How enforced? Did you think this through before pressing Post Reply?
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Lock them in the convention centre under armed guard for 2 weeks. If the feds invoke the emergency measures act they have the ability to commandeer whatever facilities they require. This means they could in theory create mass quarantine centres and have them guarded by the armed forces.
 
Richard White said:
Lock them in the convention centre under armed guard for 2 weeks. If the feds invoke the emergency measures act they have the ability to commandeer whatever facilities they require. This means they could in theory create mass quarantine centres and have them guarded by the armed forces.
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You want to create the perfect condition for the spread of the COVID - which will then all have to be treated, with a substantial portion requiring ICU level treatment - just for the few people that a) have COVID and b) will break self-isolation? Is that wise?

AoD
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
You want to create the perfect condition for the spread of the COVID - which will then all have to be treated, with a substantial portion requiring ICU level treatment - just for the few people that a) have COVID and b) will break self-isolation? Is that wise?

AoD
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2 weeks in isolation should in theory resolve the issue. Have doctors in full hazmat treat the sick.

Not ideal but would you rather them isolate themselves on the honor system?

People are stupid and will put themselves before others. Better to risk serious complications from isolation than to risk further spread.

Yes people may get sick and die but that is the nature of disease outbreaks. Now is not the time for the honor system if you wish to control the outbreak.
 
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