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Novel Coronavirus COVID-19 (nCoV-2019)

The rest of us aren’t much better. Perhaps the vegans have won this round?

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The one hole in the graphic is 'mad cow'. It is not contagious; there is a difference between transmittable and contagious. Also, the reported incidents are quite low and generally are identified in countries with fairly robust food safety rules. I don't think there is much if any international trade in beef outside of so-called first world countries for that reason.

From a 2019 CNN article:

vCJD Statistics (Humans): (source: CDC)
Since 1996, 231 vCJD cases have been identified in 12 countries:
United Kingdom - 178
France - 27
Spain - 5
Ireland - 4
United States - 4
Italy - 3
The Netherlands - 3
Portugal - 2
Canada - 2
Japan - 1
Saudi Arabia - 1
Taiwan - 1
 
Swift action kept Portugal's coronavirus crisis in check, says minister

The Portuguese government has attributed the country’s low coronavirus caseload to a swift, flexible “worst-case scenario” response and to the early closure of schools and universities on 16 March.

Despite the fact that around 22% of Portugal’s 10.3 million people are aged 65 or over, making them particularly vulnerable to the virus, the country has so far registered just over 20,000 cases and 714 deaths – far fewer than its neighbours.

Spain has recorded more than 195,000 cases and more than 20,000 deaths, Italy 176,000 cases and more than 23,000 deaths, and France 153,000 cases and around 20,000 deaths. Portugal’s coronavirus mortality rate is around 3%, compared with 13% in the UK and Belgium and 10% in Spain.

António Sales, the secretary of state for health in Portugal’s socialist minority government, said the administration had “taken the right measures at the right time” after monitoring the spread of the virus since the end of January.

“The Portuguese response to the global coronavirus outbreak has, since the very beginning, been based on the best scientific advice and on other countries’ experience,” he told the Guardian. “It has been regularly reassessed and adapted to a very fast evolution. The country has been preparing for the worst-case scenario.”

Sales said that the decision to close all schools and universities in mid-March – when the country had logged 112 cases and no fatalities – had proved pivotal.

“Anticipating the spread of the infection and community transmission, the government decided to close educational institutions in order to limit the contact of a large amount of people in a confined place,” he added.

 
Swift action kept Portugal's coronavirus crisis in check, says minister

The Portuguese government has attributed the country’s low coronavirus caseload to a swift, flexible “worst-case scenario” response and to the early closure of schools and universities on 16 March.

Despite the fact that around 22% of Portugal’s 10.3 million people are aged 65 or over, making them particularly vulnerable to the virus, the country has so far registered just over 20,000 cases and 714 deaths – far fewer than its neighbours.

Spain has recorded more than 195,000 cases and more than 20,000 deaths, Italy 176,000 cases and more than 23,000 deaths, and France 153,000 cases and around 20,000 deaths. Portugal’s coronavirus mortality rate is around 3%, compared with 13% in the UK and Belgium and 10% in Spain.

António Sales, the secretary of state for health in Portugal’s socialist minority government, said the administration had “taken the right measures at the right time” after monitoring the spread of the virus since the end of January.

“The Portuguese response to the global coronavirus outbreak has, since the very beginning, been based on the best scientific advice and on other countries’ experience,” he told the Guardian. “It has been regularly reassessed and adapted to a very fast evolution. The country has been preparing for the worst-case scenario.”

Sales said that the decision to close all schools and universities in mid-March – when the country had logged 112 cases and no fatalities – had proved pivotal.

“Anticipating the spread of the infection and community transmission, the government decided to close educational institutions in order to limit the contact of a large amount of people in a confined place,” he added.


Note that Portugal went into lockdown on March 16th. Ontario ordered closing their schools after March break (March 12th). The state of emergency in Ontario was declared March 17th. See link.

Most of problems in Ontario began with the retirement homes and long-term care. That's where Ontario failed. Ontario was not prepared, with front-line staff and medical inventories.
 
A look at Ontario's numbers for Sunday April 19.

New Cases up 5.7%, slight up tick from yesterday, but still the 2nd day in a row under 6%

Also, over 9,600 tests yesterday which is also an improving number.

Total in Hospital: -19 (2.2% change4)

Total in ICU -3 (-1.2%)

Total on Vents - 1 ( 0%)

Deaths: 39 in the last day (+3)

Trendlines are looking positive.

49.2% of cases are now considered resolved (+0.5%) (person has recovered from infection, now symptom free for extended period)

*this is the first report, so far as I know, in which all of hospitalizations, patients in ICU, and patients on Vents are all down*

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How has BC been able to have such low numbers compared to Ontario and Quebec?

Not everyone got tested in BC. My sister works for Nanaimo Island Heath. They told a lot of people that were reporting mild symptoms to stay home unless symptoms become problematic. Covid cases in all provinces are probably way higher than what the numbers are showing.
 
Not everyone got tested in BC. My sister works for Nanaimo Island Heath. They told a lot of people that were reporting mild symptoms to stay home unless symptoms become problematic. Covid cases in all provinces are probably way higher than what the numbers are showing.

The problem is that some people may only get a slight fever or very mild symptoms, but could become a "typhoid Mary" and pass it onto others. The elderly could be especially at risk. Best to still get tested, followed by a second test 24 hours later, and another test after 14 days.
 
Interesting article here on the Swedish situation. As many of you may know, Sweden chose to not to go w/the lockdown/shutdown route, instead only advising social distancing, encouraging work from home and resourcing healthcare etc.

That choice has been controversial to some; though apparently quite popular with Swedes themselves.

Worth saying, their deaths per million are 4x the rate here in Canada. (a smidge higher in absolute deaths, with slightly more than 1/3 of Canada's population)

I'm not sure if that seeming trade would have been endorsed here.........

But it is an interesting contrast.

 
The problem is that some people may only get a slight fever or very mild symptoms, but could become a "typhoid Mary" and pass it onto others. The elderly could be especially at risk. Best to still get tested, followed by a second test 24 hours later, and another test after 14 days.

Exactly, people need to be tested. taking temperatures is screening, testing is testing.
 
Not everyone got tested in BC. My sister works for Nanaimo Island Heath. They told a lot of people that were reporting mild symptoms to stay home unless symptoms become problematic. Covid cases in all provinces are probably way higher than what the numbers are showing.
Same situation here, even for people with significant symptoms.
 
Same situation here, even for people with significant symptoms.
I just assume everyone has it. That's what the long term care places should have done in February; assumed positives for all staff, visitors and residents until proved negative.
 
Interesting article here on the Swedish situation. As many of you may know, Sweden chose to not to go w/the lockdown/shutdown route, instead only advising social distancing, encouraging work from home and resourcing healthcare etc.

That choice has been controversial to some; though apparently quite popular with Swedes themselves.

Worth saying, their deaths per million are 4x the rate here in Canada. (a smidge higher in absolute deaths, with slightly more than 1/3 of Canada's population)

I'm not sure if that seeming trade would have been endorsed here.........

But it is an interesting contrast.

Per capita, they have done fewer tests than we have, but their case count is higher per capita, so I'm not sure that I want to follow their lead.
 
Temporary agency workers have long been a crutch for a care system in crisis, experts say. Now, they are exempt from new COVID-19 health directives

From link.

Long before the pandemic hit, “working short” was a chronic problem for personal support worker Febe Jimenez.

Staff were overloaded on a good day at her Hamilton-area retirement home; a single worker’s absence could throw an already tenuous care system built on low pay and long hours into disarray. For temporary relief, she says, help was habitually drafted in from three separate staffing agencies: one for nurses, one for night shift, and one for day shift.

“Before this happened, we were going through agencies like crazy,” Jimenez said.

A new directive issued by the province this week limits the movement of health-care workers between facilities in a bid to contain the devastating spread of COVID-19 in nursing homes. But the directive does not apply to agency workers, who earn their living floating from home to home.

It’s an exemption critics call a health risk — and a sign.

“It shows just how desperate the Ontario government is to adequately staff these long-term care facilities,” said Candace Rennick, secretary-treasurer of the Canadian Union of Public Employees and a long-time nursing home worker.

“We know there is a complete staffing crisis with respect to shortages and retention and recruitment. They are so reliant on this temporary agency contract work that they need to exempt them from a fundamental order to keep people safe.”

In a statement to the Star, a spokesperson for Minister of Long Term Care Merrilee Fullerton said the order did not apply to “agency workers or other critical contract staff” in order to “ensure a steady supply of staff available to work on an emergency basis in long-term care homes.”

“To ensure the safety of long-term care residents, these workers are subject to ‘active screening’ direction set out in a directive by the Chief Medical Officer of Health, which requires a rigorous screening process before being permitted entry into a long-term care home,” the statement said.

Even for directly-hired personal support workers, poor pay has long meant juggling multiple jobs at different homes, says Sharlene Stewart, president of Services Employees International Union Healthcare.

“Workers absolutely want one full-time job. But when you pay them so poorly … you have to work two jobs to barely make a living,” she said.

In light of the pandemic, the government has said these workers can pick one employer and take job-protected leaves of absence from others to comply with new directives.The province has also said it “encourages” long-term-care employers to offer full-time hours to part-time workers.

That is what has happened at Jimenez’s facility so far, she says. But it does not solve what caused the shortages — and reliance on temporary staff — in the first place.

“It was stressful working short. Even when people came in, they weren’t wanting to get hired at our place because they thought the wage was too low,” she said.

Years of underfunding and the expansion of for-profit care homes have deeply impacted working conditions, leading to poor pay, high turnover, and the need for a contingent workforce to plug the gaps, says Pat Armstrong, sociology professor at York University.

“If you’re trying to make profit out of a long-term care home, your biggest cost is labour.”

Armstrong is part of an interdisciplinary team that has studied nursing homes in Canada and five other jurisdictions over the past decade. A forthcoming report on their findings for the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives says that “homes run on a for-profit basis tend to have lower staffing levels, more verified complaints, and more transfers to hospitals, as well as higher rates for both ulcers and morbidity.”

“Moreover, managerial practices taken from the business sector are designed for just enough labour and for making a profit, rather than for providing good care,” the report says.

“These include paying the lowest wages possible, and hiring part-time, casual and those defined as self-employed in order to avoid paying benefits or providing other protections.”

Enter staffing agencies.

“PSWs have double the rate of absenteeism due to illness or injury compared to the (Canadian) average,” said Kate Laxer, a research associate with Dr. Tamara Daly at York University’s Centre for Aging Research and Education.

“If you even were to imagine that just one PSW is sick, and they’re dealing with perhaps a ratio of three PSWs to 20 residents, that would have a very serious consequence in the overall ratio,” she added.

“That would require an agency staff person to fill in at that point. And it’s very common. It happens all the time.”

But the reliance on agencies can pose a risk to residents, caused in part by “the lack of familiarity and the discontinuity in care,” said Laxer. In the midst of a pandemic, “precarious arrangements are leading to what are probably very problematic levels of traffic under these circumstances,” she added.

The model can also pose risks to workers, who often rely heavily on their knowledge of a particular home and its residents to keep themselves safe on the job, said Armstrong.

“Especially in these times, you want that support,” she said.

It’s an issue that was brought to Workforce Planning for Sudbury & Manitoulin head Reggie Caverson’s attention around two years ago — by the head of a private staffing agency.

“They said, ‘do you have any idea how many shifts are being missed at our local long-term care homes?’” Caverson recalls.

“Obviously, they were a private staffing agency so it was a fairly lucrative business for them. But they were very, very concerned about the fact that there were so many shifts that were being missed.”

Caverson and her team investigated, speaking to staffing agencies, nursing homes, and — most importantly — workers themselves.

“Nothing is worse than our field than going into agencies and they’re saying, ‘there’s nothing wrong here.’ But we’re hearing from the workers saying, ‘oh, there’s something really wrong here.’ And that’s exactly what has happened,” said Caverson.

The resulting report, published last year, found that personal support workers in the area were evenly split between full-time and part-time, with 75 per cent earning $20 or less an hour. The report also found that around a third reported working for an employment agency.

Existing research on temporary agency work has long shown that it is often riskier and lower-paid than a permanent job. But while the model poses safety issues in the health care sector too, the concerns around pay sometimes differ, said Caverson.

In some cases, agency workers “get emergency pay to get in there earlier and faster, so they’re paid much better than the current PSWs and have a lot more flexibility,” she noted. Sometimes, workers may even prefer agency work because permanent positions are so demanding, she added.

“How do you fix that? You fix that by improving conditions,” said Armstrong.

And while the rationale behind lean staffing may be low labour costs, Caverson said the end result may be exactly the opposite.

“I talked to some of the directors up here from the long-term-care homes, and (agencies) charge them an arm and a leg for one of these staff members to come in,” she said.

“The local health integration network … had charts and everything showing how in debt they were now because it had to pay for all these private staffing people to come in.”

But the scale of the problem remains quantify, even amid a crisis where hard numbers would come in handy, said Laxner. Apart from research efforts like the ones undertaken by Caverson, low-wage care workers are often invisible in workforce data.

“The data gets very, very murky especially the more tenuous the employment relationship,” Laxer said.

Long-term care facilities, for example, report “full-time equivalents” to represent their staffing numbers, which “lumps together all the workers so that it’s impossible to gauge who was working full-time, part time, temporary or agency,” she said.

“I would argue that that’s really important because the employment relationship is a key indicator of the quality of care,” she said.

Now, with capacity stretched more than ever amid a crisis, the government’s ability to restrict mobility — long an unwelcome necessity for many workers — is limited by problems of its own making, said Laxer.

“It was very clear that this model of having people come in and out of facilities, or any environment in which they’re providing care, poses a tremendous risk if there is some kind of outbreak of any kind of infectious disease. That was known,” she said.

“It’s heartbreaking and astonishing that it wasn’t addressed sooner.”
 
Joe Rogan has made many right-wing people very popular...and a result people think he needs to be 'de-platformed'... I heard it often at my uni.

So I see that university students are still wankers in significant numbers. This was the case in my uni days back in 2003-2005 as well.

And his Podcast with Alex Jones is likely one of the most hilarious podcasts ever made.

It was! Alex Jones if demented beyond belief! I couldn't watch it because his voice...I just couldn't deal. I did catch the best bit though!

"Joe.....I gotta be honest with you. I'm a little bit retarded!" ????

Well said, Alex....well said. At least he's self-aware enough for that little assessment.

Let's not forget the fact that Joe Rogan thinks rather little of Alex Jones and only had him on in the interest of fairness to the dude so that he could respond to criticisms levelled at him.


Its why he has a bigger audience than almost any talk show right now as he talks to almost anyone, which is something I think all of the people yearn for. Even if he has a person like RDJ on, they are in a totally different form then if they are on a late-night talk show.

Yeah, Joe's a good guy and is fair. He doesn't shy away from having complete nutters on his show, which is refreshing as people should be open to hearing all manner of different views, opinions and information.

The sanitisation of discourse is a tragedy.

I've watched many a Rogan podcast and rolled my eyes near to getting stuck back there, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be open to hearing even the dumb shit. Even that sort of stuff can help augment the way one sees and thinks about things.
 
The WHO has just launched an updated version of its Covid-19 database with better search software. It is freely available at https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...obal-research-on-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov\

WHO is gathering the latest international multilingual scientific findings and knowledge on COVID-19. The global literature cited in the WHO COVID-19 database is updated daily (Monday through Friday) from searches of bibliographic databases, hand searching, and the addition of other expert-referred scientific articles. This database represents a comprehensive multilingual source of current literature on the topic. While it may not be exhaustive, new research is added regularly.
 

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