miWay Transit

[Northern Light]

[Budget Committee] 2025 Budget Outlook

• Fare revenue is approximately $10M better than budgeted due to strong ridership growth
• MiWay proposes to add 120,000 annual service hours in 2025 (8% service growth)

Outstanding! Depending on how the 8% is allocated, it should be able to achieve 15M or better headway, in peak and midday times, 7 days a week, on most major grid routes.

Some of it may be otherwise deployed; but that's a huge (potential) step in the right direction.

[Transit Committee] MiWay September and October 2024 service changes

• Continued overcrowding on Derry, McLaughlin and Mavis Corridors
• Planned extension of 51 Tomken to Bramalea GO, serving on street stop on Steeles and looping through terminal roadway (no stop inside terminal). Change will result in slightly wider headways
• Improved Sunday service on 61 Mavis (18 min to 15 min midday; 43 min to 23 min evening)

Solid to see Mavis at 15M off-peak, mid-day on Sunday; while 23M is poor in the evening, its a huge improvement from 43!

 

[anb]

[Transit Committee] MiWay September and October 2024 service changes

• Continued overcrowding on Derry, McLaughlin and Mavis Corridors
• Planned extension of 51 Tomken to Bramalea GO, serving on street stop on Steeles and looping through terminal roadway (no stop inside terminal). Change will result in slightly wider headways
• Improved Sunday service on 61 Mavis (18 min to 15 min midday; 43 min to 23 min evening)

[Transit Committee] 2023 MiWay report to the Community

[Transit Committee] Spring 2024 Customer Satisfaction Survey

[Transit Committee] Sunflower Program Launch

51 extending to Steeles is finally happening, its what should’ve happened for years but better late than never. It’s interesting that they would not directly service the terminal of Bramalea the same way they did with the 18/57 not directly going inside Sheridan anymore.

 

[drum118]

There will be no fare increase in 2025 at this time.

No idea if this has to due with the s=LRT extension that will effect both TTC and miWay as well what for.

Renforth Station construction. Closures will be in effect from September 23 to November 1, 2024. Metrolinx will be temporarily closing Renforth Station for essential construction work

 

[drum118]

2405 arrived at the end of Sept and is the first of 108 buses on order to arrive this year to March 2025. I believe here is supposed to be another 80 NFI buses due in the fall of 2025

88 XDE40 New Flyer

10 XD60 New Flyer

10 of New Flyer’s next Generation full cell buses.

The current delivery will replace the remaining 700', 800' and 900 series buses that were to be retired 2022, 2023 and 2024. Would be surprise if a few hang around until the end of 2025.

 

[APTA-2048]

Interesting read critiquing the CUTRIC hydrogen fuel cell pilot.

Canadian City About To Buy Hydrogen Buses Because Feds & CUTRIC Captured by Hydrogen Lobby - CleanTechnica

Canadian city Mississauga is on the verge of making an expensive mistake because the Canadian government and transit-org CUTRIC are captured by hydrogen.

cleantechnica.com

 

[drum118]

It seems Eve Wiggins is to resign on November 15 and a need for a new director of Transit has to be found again.

The Transportation Commissioner is now the City Manager with an acting Commissioner at this time

The turn over at upper management been a revolving door the past few years.

 

[MiExpress]

City Of Mississauga 2025 proposed budget

Transit 2025 budget presentation

Budget time is upon us again and here are some highlights from the proposed 2025 budget:

• 120,000 additional service hours (8% growth)
• 153 new full time staff positions to support operations and growth. Note this is net additions; replacements due to retirements and vacancies are already budgeted for.
• Route 39 to be streamlined to terminate at Meadowvale Town Centre via Winston Churchill Blvd with increased frequency
• New route 50 to replace Lisgar portion of route 39, running to Erin Mills Station via Glen Erin and Erin Mills Town Centre
• New route 135 Eglinton Express from Winston Churchill to Renforth
• Improved frequencies on various routes with the goal of creating a "frequent network"; note many routes already have rush hour service close to the 10/15/20 minute levels indicated on the map
• Bus replacement continues with ~78 40' hybrid buses and 10 60' diesel buses purchased for replacement. The majority of the 78 40' buses won't be delivered until 2026.
• Continuing other capital projects funded by federal/provincial infrastructure funding such as enhanced shelters and work on Dundas and Lakeshore BRTs.

Slides of note from the presentation (please do not quote):

 

[duffo]

City Of Mississauga 2025 proposed budget

Transit 2025 budget presentation

Budget time is upon us again and here are some highlights from the proposed 2025 budget:

• 120,000 additional service hours (8% growth)
• 153 new full time staff positions to support operations and growth. Note this is net additions; replacements due to retirements and vacancies are already budgeted for.
• Route 39 to be streamlined to terminate at Meadowvale Town Centre via Winston Churchill Blvd with increased frequency
• New route 50 to replace Lisgar portion of route 39, running to Erin Mills Station via Glen Erin and Erin Mills Town Centre
• New route 135 Eglinton Express from Winston Churchill to Renforth
• Improved frequencies on various routes with the goal of creating a "frequent network"; note many routes already have rush hour service close to the 10/15/20 minute levels indicated on the map
• Bus replacement continues with ~78 40' hybrid buses and 10 60' diesel buses purchased for replacement. The majority of the 78 40' buses won't be delivered until 2026.
• Continuing other capital projects funded by federal/provincial infrastructure funding such as enhanced shelters and work on Dundas and Lakeshore BRTs.

Slides of note from the presentation (please do not quote):

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Awesome. Great to see the express network get built out. But I think that frequent transit network slide is misleading as it only refers to peak-hour frequency. All-day frequency is hugely important on major corridors and where a lot of these suburban agencies drop the ball.

 

[Northern Light]

City Of Mississauga 2025 proposed budget

Transit 2025 budget presentation

Budget time is upon us again and here are some highlights from the proposed 2025 budget:

• 120,000 additional service hours (8% growth)
• 153 new full time staff positions to support operations and growth. Note this is net additions; replacements due to retirements and vacancies are already budgeted for.
• Route 39 to be streamlined to terminate at Meadowvale Town Centre via Winston Churchill Blvd with increased frequency
• New route 50 to replace Lisgar portion of route 39, running to Erin Mills Station via Glen Erin and Erin Mills Town Centre
• New route 135 Eglinton Express from Winston Churchill to Renforth
• Improved frequencies on various routes with the goal of creating a "frequent network"; note many routes already have rush hour service close to the 10/15/20 minute levels indicated on the map
• Bus replacement continues with ~78 40' hybrid buses and 10 60' diesel buses purchased for replacement. The majority of the 78 40' buses won't be delivered until 2026.
• Continuing other capital projects funded by federal/provincial infrastructure funding such as enhanced shelters and work on Dundas and Lakeshore BRTs.

Slides of note from the presentation (please do not quote):

Excellent post!

Just let me blow up the frequent-service network slide for easier reading for people:

When I look at that map, Of those corridors with noted routes, Green and Yellow is mostly solid north of Dundas; Lakeshore is problematic for being in the pink space, I don't consider 20M to be reasonable for a frequent service network.

The biggest thing that map betrays to me, however, is just some gaping holes in terms of frequent service south of Dundas. There is absolutely a need for another major E-W artery between Dundas and Lakeshore, w/Queensway being the logical choice, but that will be a very expensive new bridge across the Credit River Valley.

There is also a case to be made for Indian Rd - Mineola, but its weaker.

There is also a clear need for an additional N-S artery between Hurontario and Erin Mills, I know the residents would love me, but punching Mavis south along Stavebank looks like an obvious, if costly choice. (avoids the need for a river crossing, but you still need to get across the QEW)

Not sure many of those connections will be made in my lifetime, or at least the next two decades, but the existing distances are rather unreasonable.

 

[Divas S.]

This may be a stupid question, but I never understood why there is no bus service that runs on the Queensway other than a couple blocks on the 4 after Dixie outlet. Wouldn't it make sense to make a bus that runs on a fast corridor that connects to a lot of busy routes with a huge mall at one end and a hospital on the other?

 

[Northern Light]

This may be a stupid question, but I never understood why there is no bus service that runs on the Queensway other than a couple blocks on the 4 after Dixie outlet. Wouldn't it make sense to make a bus that runs on a fast corridor that connects to a lot of busy routes with a huge mall at one end and a hospital on the other?

I think its a good question.

@drum118 is liable to be able to answer this one.

But maybe @MiExpress could take a shot at it too.

 

[drum118]

Never going to happen to have Mavis connect to Stavebank as you need a bridge/tunnel for the QEW. The city wanted a south service road over the Port Credit River and fully opposed by the whole area on both side of the river. Any though of another east-west road south of the QEW is dead.

Any true grid road for the city is the weakest link for both traffic and transit as the city fail to do it as well protection for them. Time to get the bulldozers out to cut the path for those missing grid roads regardless what the NIMBY folk screaming NO>>NO>>>NO

I really find that map confusing as where they show 10 minute service from Erin Mills Station to Pearson, yet 15 minutes from both location to UTM and Humber regardless the note 15 minutes or better. So what is happening to 110 and 107. The way it looks for the Transitway to Pearson, the 100 is coming back which is a waste since day one since the ridership is not there for it.

As for the Lakeshore, it should be yellow as the late ward councilor wanted green service along with the city planning on building the BRT on it as well.

Quality of improved service is long over due. Does this map allow for weekend service as well that is long over due??

Had my first ride on 126 and way worst than I thought it would be, but its not 6 month in service and need to see what it like a different time that not on my due list these days.

 

[drum118]

This may be a stupid question, but I never understood why there is no bus service that runs on the Queensway other than a couple blocks on the 4 after Dixie outlet. Wouldn't it make sense to make a bus that runs on a fast corridor that connects to a lot of busy routes with a huge mall at one end and a hospital on the other?

No riders nor destinations for riders to go to, This go back to the 70/80s when the city had the chance to build the road over the Credit River, but the golfers got their way buy killing the idea. The late Ward 1 councilor was planning not only on pushing that extension over the river, but to a new interchange on the 403.

Route 4 only used to use the service roads to/from Sherway until traffic and construction became a problem for westbound and it was move to the Queensway

 

[Dan416]

They're currently building a pedestrian connection between the Stavebank segments north and south of the QEW. I guess pre-QEW those segments were connected. But yeah, they will never be a major street. It's too close to the river and Hurontario as well. There's honestly no need for it as anything more than it is now. Hurontario has plenty of capacity and will soon (ish) have an LRT which is actually way overbuilt for this part of Hurontario in a way anyway. It's really just needed to connect Square One with Port Credit GO.

 

[Sauga89]

No riders nor destinations for riders to go to, This go back to the 70/80s when the city had the chance to build the road over the Credit River, but the golfers got their way buy killing the idea. The late Ward 1 councilor was planning not only on pushing that extension over the river, but to a new interchange on the 403.

Route 4 only used to use the service roads to/from Sherway until traffic and construction became a problem for westbound and it was move to the Queensway

The bus that I would argue for would be a UTM > Dundas/Mavis > Queensway/Mavis > Mississauga Hospital&LRT > Sherway route. You wouldn't have to build any bridges over the river for that. I don't even mean as an express route, even a regular route would do, since there are no buses along most of that route currently. It would serve several destinations, and residential areas along Queensway that currently don't have any bus service.

I also might suggest a bus that followed either Queensway, or the North or South service road, then got on the QEW at Hurontario, got off at the next exit at Mississauga Road, and then took South Sheridan Way. Currently, I think only the 71 uses the QEW, and only at rush hour. It gets on at Erin Mills and doesn't get off until Kipling. There's no reason I can see why a bus can't get on the highway, and get off at the next exit after crossing the river. Again, I'm not talking about an express bus, because even a regular bus would help close that gap. A local bus really shouldn't have to go all the way north or south to Dundas or Lakeshore to get across the river.