Dan416
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It's in the "Beyond 25 Years" section of the final plan - so it's officially on the books.
I.e. the part of the plan that doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of happening.
It's in the "Beyond 25 Years" section of the final plan - so it's officially on the books.
I.e. the part of the plan that doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of happening.
A little off topic of what is being said lately in this thread...
I'm downtown Toronto through and through, but as I was driving in Mississauga the other day at a conference for work I thought to myself that Mississauga could probably solve a lot of its transit problems with some Trams/Streetcars/LRT, whatever you want to call it.
I say this because your streets are already 3 lanes wide on one side, getting rid of one lane for transit would definitely ease congestion because people would be encouraged to take transit because all of the buses wouldn't be sitting waiting in traffic. Then since transit is more attractive to take, there will be less cars on the road.
I was also thinking that there needs to be some sort of major link between Kipling and downtown Mississauga. I ended up taking my car to Mississauga, but as someone who lives downtown Toronto, I prefer transit.
Thoughts? Just my two cents from someone visiting Mississauga.
What could a streetcar do that a dedicated busway can't, other than look cool and cost a lot of money.
It's in the "Beyond 25 Years" section of the final plan - so it's officially on the books.
65% of the cost of running a bus is the operator wages. Since a LRV carries twice as many people, the wages are lower per passenger. Also the LRV will last 2 or 3 times as long, so the per year depreciation will be spread out over more years.
65% of the cost of running a bus is the operator wages. Since a LRV carries twice as many people, the wages are lower per passenger. Also the LRV will last 2 or 3 times as long, so the per year depreciation will be spread out over more years.
Dedicated busways are also wider and therefore take up more of the road allowance than LRT. Because buses aren't guided by rails, more clearance needs to be provided.
That assumes that the frequency drops in half. Which might be fine in rush-hour when an LRV comes every 2-3 minutes. But isn't acceptable off-peak when vehicles come every 10 minutes or so, and then would drop to every 20 minutes.65% of the cost of running a bus is the operator wages. Since a LRV carries twice as many people, the wages are lower per passenger.
So an LRT on Hurontario is at least 25 years away, even if it does happen? Seriously? Wow, that's sad.
So an LRT on Hurontario is at least 25 years away, even if it does happen? Seriously? Wow, that's sad.
Frequent express buses on Hurontario is one to two years away in Mississauga and two to three years away in Brampton. Higher order transit is in the 5 to 10 year horizon. Over the next 25 years frequencies on the GO line will gradually increase to the point where we'll have subway-like frequencies at least to Cooksville. A heavy rail connection between the Milton GO line and the Mississauga City Centre district is beyond the vision of the plan.
What could a streetcar do that a dedicated busway can't, other than look cool and cost a lot of money.