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That day has passed us by. I agree intellectually with your argument, but that boat has sailed and that system is no longer. Automation requires that we tap. We have modernized the system. The old system required humans and manual checking. The new system is automatic and comprehensive. Everyone is checked every time they ride because everyone taps always.
No they don't. If that was the case, fare payment officers wouldn't be necessary, would they?
So would a court.
Don`t worry. It`s coming. It is like any other process that becomes automated. There are fewer exceptions in order to increase efficiency or reduce cost. Nothing wrong with that. It`s an inherently simple process. Did you pay?
Again, the courts might rule otherwise. What if you were required to wear an ID chip wherever you went? That is what you are stating. If that is done voluntarily, fine, those erosions of anonymity are part of modern living. But the purchase of a Pass has to be an option that allows you to retain your privacy.
When fare inspectors ride along on the route the is exactly what they do after they have made their way through the car with the new ones one wills and at each of the far machines and walk over to new ple that board from the front or rear doors.
true but the TTC wants their rules to be different then everyone else by putting photos of the student/ kids on them so they know who is supposed to have that fare, it may not be as much of a problem with having students of all ages riding public transit all the time as it is in Toronto. Most High School student her ride the TTC daily from Monday to Friday just to get to scholl and some younger kids do as well if they go to school downtown like for example St. Michael's Choir school.
The no meeting part comes from me watching the video of the TTC monthly board meeting on youtube. Back in March one of the councilors on the board mentioned that they ahdn't had a meeting with the metrolinx board in over a year and then made amson to invite them to host another joint meeting. As for the other part it's just speculation because the TTC is the biggest player in the transit game in the GTHA and stands to lose the most with fare integration.
And then what? The passenger with a Metropass loaded on his/her Presto Card allows them to determine the status. In effect, the Metropass is a time-limited pass-key. If you're already in, then you're not in violation of any rules. Is there a signed contract to get a Presto Card with conditions attached?
The kibosh has been put on that story, for good reason. It's not compliant with Ontario Law. Asking for separate ID might be, but that is still contentious. TTC brass have probably been told by Presto's lawyers to drop the matter before it becomes a PR disaster.
There are other systems that use Presto that currently have monthly passes available for them I'm not familiar with how they work but I would assume that you would have to tap it on a rider to show it's active on that particular roue. I don't relly see why Preto is such a problem for poel and why they don't want to follow the rules. Whenever I use my Metropass at a station I always swipe it, and I'm suspicious of the pole that don't seem to want to do it and often wonder if ther pass isn't legitimate. With Passes being available only on Presto it makes it so the only way to get one is through the TTC and not someone else that may be making them fraudulently.
The TTC is still saying they are going ahead with it in September so I don't know where you are getting that lawyers are saying it's against any rules. Just remember the TTC is private Property and can pass any rules they need to to enforce the rules should they need to, it;'s like people that were trying to say that they didn't need to get a transfer when Presto first rolled out because the TTC rules didn't list it but the TTC id say on their website and many other places to get one well it was being rolled out to all stations and, buses, and streetcars.
I see you haven't quoted the "rule". Look, I don't mean to be difficult, but in effect, what you're saying is "Why can't you just do as you're told". Because I wish to see a Bylaw stating it, and examine the legality of that. That is how our system of law works, not just "doing as you're told".
I stated "probably". Post your reference. I've Googled a few times, and can't find any.
It was something from Brad Ross on twitter a few months back when it was first proposed that they wanted to wait until the start of the school year to do it it may even be september 2018 before they do it.
