EnviroTO
Senior Member
By far the biggest part of the project. The second biggest would be the Strachan grade separation, and after that the two river crossings. Everything else being looked after by GO Transit is relatively simple.
I'd hardly call that column "news", though. It's a rant, pure and simple. Whether it's a justifiable rant will depend on who you talk to.
I'd hardly call that column "news", though. It's a rant, pure and simple. Whether it's a justifiable rant will depend on who you talk to.
I think we should ask the residents near Dundas West, Keele, High Park and Islington stations if electric trains are actually silent.
Oh wait, someone did...
http://www.ttc.ca/postings/gso-comrpt/documents/report/f2789/_conv.htm
Quieter? Yes.
Will we still need the sound barriers? More than likely.
you can't equate the sound of rolling stock going over a frog at a switch with the sound of rolling stock travelling on a regular section with continuous weld track with no switches and say that electric trains are noisy. track switches are noisy, bolted rail is noisy. that doesn't make electric trains (the technology) noisy. you might as well say electric trains are noisy because of the conductor blasting the horn at somebody if you're gonna say electric trains are noisy for going over a switch.
Electric trains are noisy. Do you really think that radiator fans, compressors, pumps, traction motors, gears, invertors, wheels, etc. don't make any noise?
Just because you remove the #1 source of noise (the prime mover) doesn't mean that the #2, #3, #4, etc. sources of noise become silent.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
you can't equate the sound of rolling stock going over a frog at a switch with the sound of rolling stock travelling on a regular section with continuous weld track with no switches and say that electric trains are noisy. track switches are noisy, bolted rail is noisy. that doesn't make electric trains (the technology) noisy. you might as well say electric trains are noisy because of the conductor blasting the horn at somebody if you're gonna say electric trains are noisy for going over a switch.
I realize that the purpose of the post was to illustrate the relative noise created by electric vs diesel rail. However I took it as an example of the mindset that some people have in this city.
The subway was built long before that condo was, purchasers were told about the situation and the potential impacts it might have on their homes (full disclosure) when they bought the homes. Yet suddenly they feel the need to exert their will on the TTC. I realize this is not on the level of fanatical NIMBY'ism but still, the gentleman in question still felt that he had enough of a case that he presented it at a ttc meeting. I mean you bought the unit with full knowledge of the existence of the subway line and switches and now you want the ttc to take on an expense to accomodate you? Come on.
The rail has been in place for over 100 years, residents knew this, they knew it while they grew up there and they knew it when they chose to move there. There has never been an issue until now... Diesel will never go away because electric rail is only economical in the main Toronto lines which will/should have frequent all day service. Suburban services will still be diesel (or deity forbid dual mode) since they will be peak only services.
I realize that the purpose of the post was to illustrate the relative noise created by electric vs diesel rail. However I took it as an example of the mindset that some people have in this city.
The subway was built long before that condo was, purchasers were told about the situation and the potential impacts it might have on their homes (full disclosure) when they bought the homes. Yet suddenly they feel the need to exert their will on the TTC. I realize this is not on the level of fanatical NIMBY'ism but still, the gentleman in question still felt that he had enough of a case that he presented it at a ttc meeting. I mean you bought the unit with full knowledge of the existence of the subway line and switches and now you want the ttc to take on an expense to accomodate you? Come on.
The rail has been in place for over 100 years, residents knew this, they knew it while they grew up there and they knew it when they chose to move there. There has never been an issue until now... Diesel will never go away because electric rail is only economical in the main Toronto lines which will/should have frequent all day service. Suburban services will still be diesel (or deity forbid dual mode) since they will be peak only services.