Mayor John Tory's Toronto

[AlbertHWagstaff]

Rae, Moscoe and Bussin?

Rae was one for sure, maybe Pantalone as well. I think Moscoe was a bit of a loose cannon to be called anyone's "lapdog"!

 

[christiesplits]

Rae, Moscoe and Bussin?

Don't forget Giambrone, who was being groomed as Miller's successor.

I get the sense Joey Pants was Miller's closest ally. He was well liked by his colleagues and would whip the vote and try and get the mushy middle to support more divisive items. The fact that the cold and aloof DWM is Tory's "Pantalone" says a lot about how Tory works.

Other Miller loyalists, in addition to the above, were Fletcher, Davis, Perks (elected in 06), Rae, Augimeri, Chow (until 06), Vaughan (elected in 06), Carroll and Mihevc. On all the big votes they were lock step with the Mayor.

 

[the lemur]

Not all non-whites are created equal in their eyes, it depends on money, the right church/religion, how many generations your family has been in Canada, age, and carding is the opposite of libs/socialists/communists or generally anyone who enjoys freedom. You should read up on Ann Coulter and her racism/bigotry rants and books; lately she is all about white communities tainted by non-whites to undermine American culture, family values/morals.

It's a terrible thing to say, but there seems to be some internecine racism in Ford Nation regarding crime, policing and general prejudices about who "causes trouble" or is to blame for "bad neighbourhoods".

 

[DarnDirtyApe]

Racism is not just a white vs non-white issue. One of the interesting things about Toronto is that there are people from vastly different cultures living together in the same spaces. Sometimes they don't get along so well...

 

[JWBF]

Racism is not just a white vs non-white issue. One of the interesting things about Toronto is that there are people from vastly different cultures living together in the same spaces. Sometimes they don't get along so well...

Very true, the sense of "superiority" transcends colour, etc. The camp for "anti-racism" would ague against this point, for them racism can only be used by "whites" in an attempt to make their points acceptable; downtrodden turning on their former "masters" or "oppressors".

 

[DarnDirtyApe]

Very true, the sense of "superiority" transcends colour, etc. The camp for "anti-racism" would ague against this point, for them racism can only be used by "whites" in an attempt to make their points acceptable; downtrodden turning on their former "masters" or "oppressors".

It seems like a very American-focused view of racism where there is one dominant "oppressor" group. One of the reasons Ford Nation is so successful is that their populist, conservative, tough on crime approach is very popular with many people who also happen to be visible minorities.

 

[JWBF]

It seems like a very American-focused view of racism where there is one dominant "oppressor" group. One of the reasons Ford Nation is so successful is that their populist, conservative, tough on crime approach is very popular with many people who also happen to be visible minorities.

Tell people what the problem(s) are and whose to blame for the problem(s), and all "solutions" solve nothing; wash, rinse, repeat.

"The War On <insert here>" is really popular for things, including the Iraq or Afghanistan conflicts. "Moral Outrage" is a popular tool.

 

[Videodrome]

Jamie Strashin ‏@StrashinCBC 14s15 seconds ago
Referral motion circulating on Gardiner. With enough "sweeteners", may chip away key votes from "hybrid" side. Remove side would support.

I wouldn't be surprised if this happened.

 

[christiesplits]

I wouldn't be surprised if this happened.

Matt Elliot is suggesting the same on Twitter.

 

[Videodrome]

They are back from closed session now.

 

[salsa]

 

[Videodrome]

Don Peat @reporterdonpeat
Cllr Gord Perks asks John Tory if he met with @NickKouvalis to go over polling data. He says he didn't meet with him #TOpoli

I think they might vote on this sometime in 2018.

Matt Elliott ‏@GraphicMatt 7m7 minutes ago
So Tory was smart to take that possibility out of play. He's Ford-proofed the proceedings.

This is regarding the three motions he just moved.

 

[adma]

Very true, the sense of "superiority" transcends colour, etc. The camp for "anti-racism" would ague against this point, for them racism can only be used by "whites" in an attempt to make their points acceptable; downtrodden turning on their former "masters" or "oppressors".

And the Fords et al handily substituted "elites" for "whites". That is, the whole sex-ed fooferaw being the work of "masters" or "oppressors"...

 

[Torontovibe]

Not that I disagree with your claims about the man, but how does that make him at all comparable to Rob Ford? In fact I find that comparison quite insulting, Rob Ford and his brand of politics were decidedly anti-urban and city-despising and we are lucky to escape his mayoralty with only limited damage. Tory though you may disagree with him (I sure do!) does not prescribe to either of those ideals, and more importantly, is not a Fordite.

How is Tory comparable to Ford? Well, I think this would make a good starting case.

http://torontoist.com/2015/06/john-tory-goes-full-ford-in-his-gardiner-expressway-speech/

Tell me that wasn't typical Rob Ford? Either one has to believe that Tory was out and out lying and trying to deceive or too stupid to understand what he was talking about. Either way, that is something Rob Ford would have done. (and did)

Is anyone surprised that Tory is acting much like Ford? Last time around it was Ford's unscrupulous, campaign manager who was playing tricks on Tory. So what does Tory do? He hires that same unethical guy to run his own campaign. What does that tell us about John Tory? It tells me that he thinks winning is more important than being ethical and having integrity. Him lying only confirms what I already know about him. That's just one clear reason I think John Tory is Rob Ford in a better suit.

 

[JWBF]

How is Tory comparable to Ford? Well, I think this would make a good starting case.

http://torontoist.com/2015/06/john-tory-goes-full-ford-in-his-gardiner-expressway-speech/

Tell me that wasn't typical Rob Ford? Either one has to believe that Tory was out and out lying and trying do deceive or too stupid to understand what he was talking about. Either way, that is something Rob Ford would have done. (and did)

Is anyone surprised that Tory is acting much like Ford? Last time around it was Ford's unscrupulous, campaign manager who was playing tricks on Tory. So what does Tory do? He hires that same unethical guy to run his own campaign. What does that tell us about John Tory? It tells me that he thinks winning is more important than being ethical and having integrity. Him lying only confirms what I already know about him. That's just one clear reason I think John Tory is Rob Ford in a better suit.

Unfortunately your point has validity.