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March 2011 TTC Service Cutbacks

The TTC has more accurate data than, as a random example picked entirely out of thin air, a man driving around in his car attempting to count the people on the bus in order to prove the socialist city government is wasting his hard-earned tax money.
 
spider said:
Data in this case being a count of riders on a specific route.
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The TTC does rider counts; this has been well documented. The issue may be how frequently, but they do them. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

LOL I remember reading about the nutter who was chasing the Graydon Hall bus around suburbia, trying to count the riders, because he claimed no one was really using the bus, and the passenger counts were too high ... eventually the police had to be called.
 
LOL I remember reading about the nutter who was chasing the Graydon Hall bus around suburbia, trying to count the riders, because he claimed no one was really using the bus, and the passenger counts were too high ... eventually the police had to be called.
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The alleged nutter responds.

My activities as noted above were in response to TTC stances and numbers that seemed incredible and proved to be just that, incredible. Their count was 2 to 3 times actual as revealed by a study in a very easily monitored microcosmic portion of a route. The spur that prompted my actions was primarily the suspicion that I and my fellow taxpaying neighbours were being lied to, turns out we were. My counts were absolutely accurate, it was too easy. If the TTC told me and my neighbours such outrageous lies I can only assume they are serving the rest of the the city with the same cavalier attitude. Why wouldn't they?

PS. Casual observations seem to indicate that ridership has not increased today 5 years later. Empty buses continue to waste my tax dollars cruising the neighbourhood trolling for that elusive fare.
 
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Uh .. umm ... I wasn't talking about you ...

... at least I didn't think I was! Must have been something in how you phrased it that triggered something in the back of mind!

Oh my!

BTW, I used to take that bus regularly until a couple of months ago. It's very well used for most of the route ... I frequently would get on heading east at Don Mills and it would be standing-room only. And get off heading west and it would be standing room only. Perhaps by the time they get to the very last stop it isn't as heavily used - but that's true on virtually every transit route on the planet! I've never seen an empty Graydon Hall bus ... except once when I took it eastbound at around 10 pm one evening.
 
Nfitz, just curious but why would you board an Eastbound 122 bus at Don Mills and Graydon Hall unless you lived on the route which you don't?
 
So did these cutbacks ever happen? I know Calvington was due for a partial cut to 11PM but I still see them running later than that.
 
Jeff said:
So did these cutbacks ever happen? I know Calvington was due for a partial cut to 11PM but I still see them running later than that.
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They went from 48 to 41 bus routes to have cutbacks, and postponed from March to May 8th. Unless something changes, like a BIG increase in oil prices. Of course, that'll depend on someone's definition of BIG.
 
spider said:
Nfitz, just curious but why would you board an Eastbound 122 bus at Don Mills and Graydon Hall unless you lived on the route which you don't?
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One might do it because it's very cold, and go around the loop going westbound.

However, I've never gotten on ... I'm afraid I missed a punctuation mark. When I wrote "I frequently would get on heading east at Don Mills and it would be standing-room only", I should have written "I frequently would get on heading east; at Don Mills and it would be standing-room only"

I tended to get on 2-3 stops before Don Mills and get off at Don Mills. The bus was quite full at that point, and many people do get on (and off) here.
 
Gas prices have gone up in the last few weeks, but really, if you compare it to inflation (US figures, but they're a roughly comparable market) it's really not that bad. It's not really much worse than the early 80s. It's just more spooky now thanks to rampant speculation and price volatility.

Any more discussion, and this deserves its own thread.
 
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