MetroMan
Senior Member
The streetcar platforms went up this weekend at 2 locations. They're going to test them out and if it works, they'll be added to every stop along the priority corridor.
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innsertnamehere
Superstar
saw them out the window on my way to work today - passengers stand all over the black part that is supposed to be for cyclists. They need more signage to make that clear. Not as big a deal this time of year since cyclist counts are significantly lower (me included), but come summer time it'll be an issue.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
This isn't hard. Some green paint would do wonders. Paint a little biker on the platform so even the braindead will know that they're not to stand there. Seems so bloody obvious that I'm almost impressed they didnt do this from the start
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
maybe we should stop catering to cyclists on every street especially if there isn't space for them to be able to use it safely all of the time.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Cyclists are going to use King Street regardless. Without these platforms, we'd just be creating a more dangerous situation for pedestrians.
Cyclists than can reasonably use alternative routes will use them. The fact that they'll have crowds of pedestrians regularly blocking their path on King should effectively deter the bulk of cyclists from using King as a major thoroughfare.
There will absolutely be pedestrian-cyclist collisions, but this seems like the least-evil option.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Ok let’s just ban cars then - we can’t cater to them all the time when there isn’t space
MetroMan
Senior Member
Here’s the finished Portland platform.
Photos: City of Toronto
The City has also cleared up that there will only in fact be 2 stops with platforms while they test them and work out the kinks. It’s unlikely that the entire route will get these modular platforms because in 2023 they’re going to rip up the street entirely and build permanent platforms.
Photos: City of Toronto
The City has also cleared up that there will only in fact be 2 stops with platforms while they test them and work out the kinks. It’s unlikely that the entire route will get these modular platforms because in 2023 they’re going to rip up the street entirely and build permanent platforms.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
simple pedestrians outnumber cyclists as do commuters and car drivers and adding more cycling lanes and such are not going to all of a sudden make everyone who uses public transit or owns a car all of a sudden decided I'm going to buy a bike and cycle instead of using public transit. Cyclists who say that are living ina dream world and should move to Europe because they think its better there.
Cyclists are commuters too.
drum118
Superstar
This will backup removal of park cars not only on King, but other transit lines. Surprise Ottawa and Calgary in the Top 5
Two of Australia’s major cities ranked among the worst in the world for drivers
Two of Australia’s major cities ranked among the worst in the world for drivers
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Ok let’s just ban cars then - we can’t cater to them all the time when there isn’t space
Used to be ALL the streets in Toronto were two-way streets. That was fine when people actually used to streets to walk on, kids to play sports on, and horses to trot along, without taking too much real estate.
Then the cars started using up space on the street to park. That narrowed the streets too much. So the city created one-way streets because of the automobile.
Looking west on King from outside the King Edward Hotel. From link. Note the people walking on the sidewalks and street itself. Even an automobile parked on the "wrong side of the street".
W. K. Lis
Superstar
This image is from Seville, Spain and their tram mall. From link.
Of course, some would object to us duplicating this in Toronto.
Of course, some would object to us duplicating this in Toronto.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Ugh, a light setup like this is desperately needed around here. So dark and drab in the winter.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Especially if we use solar rechargeable batteries to power the LED.
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
King Street has the same ROW as this street in Katowice, Poland. I understand this is just a pilot, but I don't see any reason why we don't transform the entire street accordingly. Wider sidewalks, space for cyclists to navigate, safe waiting area for the streetcar, and local traffic & deliveries are allowed.
