Richard White
Senior Member
Follow up question.
Is there a reason they could not use a re-railer and/or a rail mounted crane?
I presume it has to do with the John Street Bridge and clearance issues?
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Follow up question.
Is there a reason they could not use a re-railer and/or a rail mounted crane?
I presume it has to do with the John Street Bridge and clearance issues?
cplchanb
Senior Member
ive seen them use a rerailer device for freight cars. why couldnt they use it here?
crs1026
Superstar
Hopefully some images will emerge showing the rerailing. that may explain things.
But - as explained already, the equipment was sitting on some complicated and potentially compromised trackage with lots of things in the mix - signal wiring, power wiring, gas lines, switch machines, switch heaters. Not much room for error. And the equipment was to be salvaged, and not written off.
Rerailers are great if the equipment can be rolled, wheels are still in alignment with the rails, and if the track itself is not compromised.
Cranes need clearance, but also stabilization, and there are limits on the geometry considering the weight of the load being shifted.
As explained, this is not a location where you can call in Hulcher and let what happens happen. I'm willing to believe they did this carefully and took all necessary precautions.
- Paul
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smallspy
Senior Member
You generally don't use a re-railer under passenger equipment if you can help it - there isn't a whole lot of clearance underneath them and so there is far too much potential for additional damage to the equipment. Same goes for locos. With freight equipment, there is far less going on between the trucks and the carbody.
As well, you try not to use them around switches. The last thing you want to do is end up doing so much damage that you have to replace the whole damn thing. They will have to replace some components from both of the double-slips, but they may not have to replace each one completely.
And as Paul correctly pointed out, you need to make sure that the trackage that you're putting the derailed equipment onto isn't compromised. If you try to pull the equipment forward or back, there was no guarantee of that here.
They could probably use a rail-mounted crane provided one of large enough capacity could be found nearby - remember that the MP54s are about 292k pounds, or about 132 tonnes. But the reality is that there are so few of them left that there probably just wasn't one stationed close enough to make it worthwhile.
Dan
crs1026
Superstar
FWIW CP24 did show a picture of a mobile crane hoisting the nose end of the locomotive.
Grabbing a decent screen capture is beyond my skill level.
- Paul
Grabbing a decent screen capture is beyond my skill level.
- Paul
urbanclient
Active Member
txlseries4
Active Member
Maybe what you're talking about, from a video here, footage at ~54s but you don't see the crane or train moving: https://www.cp24.com/local/toronto/...o-transit-tuesday-following-train-derailment/
T3G
Senior Member
What an incredibly useful email.
So, they know enough to say that tomorrow, they'll be cancelling 4 trains, but they can't be bothered to say which ones? Do I have to read tea leaves to figure this out?
It's always something with these goons at Metrolinx. I would be a lot more understanding of this cock up if every day wasn't a gamble whether I get to or from downtown in the first place. First it was the overcapacity buses on the 21, then the daily risk of bus cancellations because someone didn't bother to secure their bus fleet in time, God knows what's coming after this. I never want to see anyone advocating for a Metrolinx takeover of the LRT lines ever again!
So, they know enough to say that tomorrow, they'll be cancelling 4 trains, but they can't be bothered to say which ones? Do I have to read tea leaves to figure this out?
It's always something with these goons at Metrolinx. I would be a lot more understanding of this cock up if every day wasn't a gamble whether I get to or from downtown in the first place. First it was the overcapacity buses on the 21, then the daily risk of bus cancellations because someone didn't bother to secure their bus fleet in time, God knows what's coming after this. I never want to see anyone advocating for a Metrolinx takeover of the LRT lines ever again!
Allandale25
Senior Member
Allandale25
Senior Member
‘Majority’ of GO train track repairs complete after Monday derailment: Metrolinx
Metrolinx says most of the necessary GO train track repairs are complete after a derailment on Monday caused serious transit disruptions for commuters — but service impacts will likely continue to be felt on Thursday.
www.cp24.com
Highlights.