GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

[gweed123]

With respect to the Richmond Hill Line, personally I'd like to see a rail line built within the 407 ROW between the RH Line and the Barrie Line, with the idea being that Richmond Hill trains would use the Barrie Line (which just got a nice upgrade this week) until just south of the 407, where they would branch off.

Yes that would make Old Cummer and Oriole stations redundant, but the connectivity on the Barrie Line to other transit options is far superior anyway, especially once the Lansdowne-Bloor and Caledonia stations are built.

 

[11th]

With respect to the Richmond Hill Line, personally I'd like to see a rail line built within the 407 ROW between the RH Line and the Barrie Line, with the idea being that Richmond Hill trains would use the Barrie Line (which just got a nice upgrade this week) until just south of the 407, where they would branch off.

Yes that would make Old Cummer and Oriole stations redundant, but the connectivity on the Barrie Line to other transit options is far superior anyway, especially once the Lansdowne-Bloor and Caledonia stations are built.

Richmond Hill line can also have good connectivity if it is integrated with a northern extension of Ontario Line.

 

[anb]

Milton can actually be turned into a transit centric town if the vision was ever there and if there was a council that could advocate for it. The location for the town is nicely centralized for the west end of the GTA and getting to destinations in all 4 directions feels like an equal distance from one another. If there was a vision for Milton to be a transfer point for the region just like what Sq One is for mostly the entire GTA for regional transit, then the push for all day Milton line service would be an even higher priority.

Its a shame that this feels fantasied for now, but that returning Milton-Oakville service does have you thinking if a possibility of it ever happening. If all day Milton trains become a thing on the entire line, then they would try to push bus connections to go further west anyways like Guelph, Waterloo, maybe even Hamilton as well.

 

[Sunnyside]

In light of the discussion of Milton, I do think there’s room to argue that a second phase of GO expansion could be announced shortly after electrification is complete. To keep all those construction workers moving, Milton would be the centrepiece project, along with extending from Bramalea-Mount Pleasant, Unionville-Mount Joy, and Burlington-West Harbour/Confederation/ Ham Centre. All of these are to see 15-min service by 2041, so they’d have to get there somehow.

 

[afransen]

They've gone from nothing to a full six day system so they are. Halton Hills could learn a thing or two. I think this is just about pushing MX on paying CP. That's it. As long as MX is being cheap, that's the end of that.

I mean we saw this with the subway. The Bloor Danforth should have gone to Square One long Before Vaughan and Markham but here we are. This is a Mississauga leadership issue.

Line 2 should never go to Sq One. Every dollar that could go toward that folly should go toward Milton Line improvements and/or a Dundas BRT (which is coming).

 

[denfromoakvillemilton]

Line 2 should never go to Sq One. Every dollar that could go toward that folly should go toward Milton Line improvements and/or a Dundas BRT (which is coming).

Kipling is not a great terminal at all IMO. The same money could have been used on an extension and taken more drivers off the road. But I do agree with you, just that people are dragging their feet on the Milton Line.

 

[afransen]

Kipling is not a great terminal at all IMO. The same money could have been used on an extension and taken more drivers off the road. But I do agree with you, just that people are dragging their feet on the Milton Line.

An extension to 427 could be justified, but only if we start tolling highways so that GO buses can use them in a more free-flowing state.

 

[mossynukes]

Neither am I saying we must over build like Scarborough’s subway over LRT's.

You call that over-building? Scarborough's subway extension is long overdue, and a much needed Sheppard East extension is being planned. A much better alternative to that transit city garbage.

 

[afransen]

You call that over-building? Scarborough's subway extension is long overdue, and a much needed Sheppard East extension is being planned. A much better alternative to that transit city garbage.

It is really hard to describe Sheppard East as 'much needed'.

 

[T3G]

You call that over-building? Scarborough's subway extension is long overdue, and a much needed Sheppard East extension is being planned. A much better alternative to that transit city garbage.

I'm sure the people who were supposed to get higher order transit under Transit City, but won't, because all of the funds are being misappropriated on megalomaniacal subway expansion, would disagree that Transit City was garbage.

 

[Northern Light]

Ok..........I deleted a comment I was going to make, but now I'm going to try again with a variation.

Can we please, not revisit every transit project that has or has not happened in any thread; let alone TTC projects in a GO transit thread.

I get it, we all have tangential exchanges...... (myself included)

But this is running way off topic, because people read one person's take as a swipe or less than meritorious and off we go down a very bad road.

Can we please bring this back to GO Transit Service?

 

[sixrings]

It is really hard to describe Sheppard East as 'much needed'.

How else do you get Pickering a subway?

 

[north-of-anything]

You know what's REALLY overdue? More grade separation on the GO lines. Every time I pass by East Gwillimbury GO, I can't help but wonder what would prevent a Green Lane East overpass from being built. The road practically dives down to meet the tracks and then climbs back up again. Is it just because of the Nokiidaa Trail being there?

The Lakeshore lines also need to get on some of the easier ones like Morningside Avenue, or one of the bajillion in Halton.

 

[mossynukes]

I'm sure the people who were supposed to get higher order transit under Transit City, but won't, because all of the funds are being misappropriated on megalomaniacal subway expansion, would disagree that Transit City was garbage.

Right because subway extensions don't classify as higher-order transit? But wow Go LRT's, lets spend 4 billion dollars for one slower than the 905 with bus lanes. Downtowners fail to realize Scarborough wants these subway extensions, a lot more than we ever wanted transit city. a clean, transfer-less connection to the rest of the system, on the Mccowan corridor, right at the center of Scarborough north to sheppard, with potential for even more expansion north. As for line 4, a clean connection straight to north york center, fairview, agincourt Go, and the rest of Line 1 with potential for eastward expansion to MTC

 

[T3G]

Downtowners fail to realize Scarborough wants these subway extensions, a lot more than we ever wanted transit city.

If Scarberians want these subway extensions so much, they should pay for them entirely out of their own pockets. Why should the rest of the province bankroll these vanity projects when LRTs would have delivered adequate quality transit for a fraction of the cost?

There's a lot of transit starved communities in Ontario. Every pointless subway built means a BRT or LRT or new track that doesn't get built somewhere else. I hardly think that's fair, do you? That other communities shouldn't get anything because Scarborough wants to pretend it's dense enough to have a sprawling subway network?