Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
So I guess Thornton's Corners station is off-the-table with this alignment?
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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Allandale25
Senior Member
Do you mean reduce the radii of the curves?
innsertnamehere
Superstar
reducing it would make it worse. Canting a curve is making is so that the tracks aren't flat - it reduces the G forces the train experiences and allows for faster speeds, though only within reason.
The existing subdivision servicing GM is very low speed since it is just a small subdivision servicing a single customer. The curve radii would only permit very low speeds, even with a cant.
The important thing is for GO to use the existing 401 overpass bridge and while I'm sure that the curve radii can be improved over today, the connection from Oshawa GO to the existing bridge is going to require a pretty tight, lower speed curve, and while the connection to the CP line will be a bit better, won't be able to get a high speed curve without taking out Wal-Mart.
crs1026
Superstar
I guess ML heard all the opposition to their proposed CN alignment after all.
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robmausser
Senior Member
Yes and good. The only reason it existed was because the spur had to begin before Oshawa GO in the former plan. It was more than a bit redundant.
Now its not needed.
robmausser
Senior Member
Honestly its fine. Its so close to Oshawa station that the trains wouldnt be able to pick up much speed anyways.
This extension will be serviced by Bi-Levels for quite a while.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Thanks! I hadn't heard of the term "canting a curve" so much appreciated.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Listening to the response, it sounds like they will have to build their own track (we knew this already). I wonder how deep into this extension all-day service will go? I'd hope at least to Ritson Road to serve Oshawa's downtown, and I hope that it would be electrified to at least there.
Allandale25
Senior Member
smallspy
Senior Member
The term everyone is looking for here is "superelevation". It's a measurement of how much higher the outside rail is versus the inside rail.
Also: all curves, regardless of how fast or slow they are, have some measure of superelevation.
It absolutely is. The glass-in area in the middle will feature elevators and stairs to meet up with an extended bridge to the VIA platforms. Part of the GO platform and tracks will have to be realigned to make it work, but that's part of the larger redevelopment of Oshawa Station.
Dan
LNahid2000
Senior Member
Tried the Sunday Funday pass today. Here are some of my observations:
-Took the 9am train to Union and it was surprisingly packed! I expected to be the only one on it, but I there were quite a few families taking advantage of paying $20 for their whole family to get to Niagara and back. The train arrived early and I was impressed how fast and smooth it was.
-The way back was a different story. I decided to take the 5pm bus because I didn't want to wait 2 hours for the train. The amount of padding on the schedule for the 12 is just crazy. We waited for over 10 minutes at St Catherines, and waited at every park and ride along the way where of course no one got on in the time we wasted waiting. There was so much padding that I even thought I'd make an earlier train to Union. See screenshots below. I ran for the platform and watched the train leave as I got there. Not a good look for GO when a busload of people see a train going east as they get to the station.
-I also noticed that a lot of people don't know about this promo. One guy paid cash to get from Niagara Falls to Oshawa, which is probably like $30. Tons of people were tapping their Presto cards all over the place even though it would have been cheaper to buy this pass. I guess we're creatures of habit, so this seems to be a good strategy of price discrimination by GO.
-Also, why is Burlington GO still under construction? It was under construction when I was here in 2009.
-Took the 9am train to Union and it was surprisingly packed! I expected to be the only one on it, but I there were quite a few families taking advantage of paying $20 for their whole family to get to Niagara and back. The train arrived early and I was impressed how fast and smooth it was.
-The way back was a different story. I decided to take the 5pm bus because I didn't want to wait 2 hours for the train. The amount of padding on the schedule for the 12 is just crazy. We waited for over 10 minutes at St Catherines, and waited at every park and ride along the way where of course no one got on in the time we wasted waiting. There was so much padding that I even thought I'd make an earlier train to Union. See screenshots below. I ran for the platform and watched the train leave as I got there. Not a good look for GO when a busload of people see a train going east as they get to the station.
-I also noticed that a lot of people don't know about this promo. One guy paid cash to get from Niagara Falls to Oshawa, which is probably like $30. Tons of people were tapping their Presto cards all over the place even though it would have been cheaper to buy this pass. I guess we're creatures of habit, so this seems to be a good strategy of price discrimination by GO.
-Also, why is Burlington GO still under construction? It was under construction when I was here in 2009.
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drum118
Superstar
Its a Bondfield project and this is happening to all of Bondfield projects by someone else on Bondfield performance bond.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
I thought Burlington GO was complete? I went through it about 6 months ago and don't remember it being under construction, and Burlington Transit finally started using the bus terminal in September..
Krypto98
Active Member
Train Schedule Changes | Service Updates | GO Transit
We’re making time changes to some weekday Lakeshore East and Lakeshore West train trips, some weekday and weekend Barrie line trips, and to some GO bus trips.
www.gotransit.com
New service changes starting January 13th
tmlittle
Active Member
Train Schedule Changes | Service Updates | GO Transit
We’re making time changes to some weekday Lakeshore East and Lakeshore West train trips, some weekday and weekend Barrie line trips, and to some GO bus trips.
New service changes starting January 13th
While small, the mid afternoon trip stopping at Bloor GO makes a big difference for some, eg taking line 2. Though as someone who occasionally visits the west end of Toronto from further west, I think it'll really require an operational Mt Dennis station and Crosstown as well to really chip into the Aberfoyle-Square One-Transitway bus routing and get more people onto the Kitchener line for non-downtown trips and off buses on the 401.