crs1026
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^The RER, er, GO Expansion Business Case document has some pretty good drawings. They are notional ie plan designs, rather than current exact.
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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mdrejhon
Senior Member
In a document where positive pedestrian-friendly Hamilton LRT modifications were made, is a GO-station-related nugget that has a slight but unsurprising disappointment:
Hamilton Confederation GO station is not intended to begin operations till 2022-2023.
From Hamilton City Hall meeting PDF (from Hamilton LRT thread)
Regional Rail
"In March 2018, Metrolinx adopted the 2041 Regional Transportation Plan (2041 RTP) for the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area (GTHA). The 2041 RTP identifies three Regional Rail projects within the City of Hamilton:
- Confederation GO Extension (West Harbour GO – Confederation GO);
- Niagara GO Service (Confederation GO – Niagara Falls GO); and,
- Lakeshore West 15-minute GO Service Extension (Aldershot GO – Hamilton GO).
Further details on these projects were provided by Metrolinx in their December 2018 GO Expansion Full Business Case. A summary of that Business Case and the implications for the City can be found in Report PED19061 received by Public Works Committee on March 19, 2019.
Since 2018, there have been several enhancements to rail service benefitting the City. Currently, there are a total of eight GO Rail trains that leave Hamilton in the morning peak and return in the afternoon peak; four from Hamilton GO Centre and four from West Harbour. There is no GO Rail service from Toronto to Hamilton in the morning or from Hamilton to Toronto in the evening.
Metrolinx is currently working with CN on the required infrastructure investments as well as long-term agreements needed to provide further service expansion into Hamilton. This includes completion of a third track along the CN corridor which will help unlock additional capacity.
Confederation Station
Work on the Confederation Station, located at Centennial Parkway and Goderich Road, has been on-going since 2018. In the short term, this station will serve GO Bus trips only. Work on the rail infrastructure to support a GO Rail station is continuing, and the current timeline for completion of a full GO Rail Station is 2022/2023.
Hamilton Confederation GO station is not intended to begin operations till 2022-2023.
From Hamilton City Hall meeting PDF (from Hamilton LRT thread)
Regional Rail
"In March 2018, Metrolinx adopted the 2041 Regional Transportation Plan (2041 RTP) for the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area (GTHA). The 2041 RTP identifies three Regional Rail projects within the City of Hamilton:
- Confederation GO Extension (West Harbour GO – Confederation GO);
- Niagara GO Service (Confederation GO – Niagara Falls GO); and,
- Lakeshore West 15-minute GO Service Extension (Aldershot GO – Hamilton GO).
Further details on these projects were provided by Metrolinx in their December 2018 GO Expansion Full Business Case. A summary of that Business Case and the implications for the City can be found in Report PED19061 received by Public Works Committee on March 19, 2019.
Since 2018, there have been several enhancements to rail service benefitting the City. Currently, there are a total of eight GO Rail trains that leave Hamilton in the morning peak and return in the afternoon peak; four from Hamilton GO Centre and four from West Harbour. There is no GO Rail service from Toronto to Hamilton in the morning or from Hamilton to Toronto in the evening.
Metrolinx is currently working with CN on the required infrastructure investments as well as long-term agreements needed to provide further service expansion into Hamilton. This includes completion of a third track along the CN corridor which will help unlock additional capacity.
Confederation Station
Work on the Confederation Station, located at Centennial Parkway and Goderich Road, has been on-going since 2018. In the short term, this station will serve GO Bus trips only. Work on the rail infrastructure to support a GO Rail station is continuing, and the current timeline for completion of a full GO Rail Station is 2022/2023.
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blaixx
Active Member
It's crazy that less than 2 years ago, this project was "on track" for completion in 2019!
Confederation GO station on track to open in 2019 - Hamilton | Globalnews.ca
McMeekin stresses that frequency of service, including long-awaited all-day GO train service into Hamilton remains subject to ongoing negotiations with CN Rail.
globalnews.ca
raptor
Senior Member
Technically, Confederation GO did open in 2019, however it's just a bus station for now.It's crazy that less than 2 years ago, this project was "on track" for completion in 2019!
Confederation GO station on track to open in 2019 - Hamilton | Globalnews.ca
McMeekin stresses that frequency of service, including long-awaited all-day GO train service into Hamilton remains subject to ongoing negotiations with CN Rail.
mdrejhon
Senior Member
Yes, it did.
With some issues for transit conmectivity to Niagara Falls. The old GO bus location (Nash) was much better for people travelling by transit. The station is not well-optimized for local connectivity yet. It would be better if B-LINE bus (and future LRT) was extended from Eastgate to Confederation.
With some issues for transit conmectivity to Niagara Falls. The old GO bus location (Nash) was much better for people travelling by transit. The station is not well-optimized for local connectivity yet. It would be better if B-LINE bus (and future LRT) was extended from Eastgate to Confederation.
blaixx
Active Member
I'm not one for technicalities, haha
TransitBart
Senior Member
I’d rather see it open with train service.
blaixx
Active Member
Well at least it will have local bus service soon:
www.hamiltontransit.ca
44 RYMAL to serve Confederation GO starting December 29th
HSR service will begin at Confederation GO Station as of December 29th, 2019. Route 44 RYMAL will be extended to service the new GO Station. In November 2019 GO Transit opened the new Confederation...
www.hamiltontransit.ca
Allandale25
Senior Member
An agreement with CP has apparently been reached to use the former GM spur over the 401 for the Bowmanville Extension.
A question about the extension was asked at the recent town hall at the 58:06 mark and the CP-GM spur reference comes at around the 1:01:40 mark (the time between is when the question finishes and the answer starts).
As a reminder:
A question about the extension was asked at the recent town hall at the 58:06 mark and the CP-GM spur reference comes at around the 1:01:40 mark (the time between is when the question finishes and the answer starts).
As a reminder:
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Good catch!
That alignment seems to be a good balance between costs and service value. It retains the existing service plan more or less, actually improves it a bit by removing the split service to Oshawa GO, and cuts costs significantly.
My one concern is the train speeds around those curves. It will almost certianly add a few minutes to the train travel times.
That alignment seems to be a good balance between costs and service value. It retains the existing service plan more or less, actually improves it a bit by removing the split service to Oshawa GO, and cuts costs significantly.
My one concern is the train speeds around those curves. It will almost certianly add a few minutes to the train travel times.
micheal_can
Senior Member
They could bane them so that they can stay at speed.
robmausser
Senior Member
I actually liked this alignment the best because while it goes to downtown Oshawa it doesnt require a spur line that completely ignores the currecnt Oshawa GO station and require a separate station to be built north of Oshawa GO.
I think the advantage of a single line without spurs (meaning not separate train trips and types from downtown, a single ride to Bowmanville) is an advantage that negates the couple of minutes that using the CP bridge might add.
Allandale25
Senior Member
What do you mean?
Allandale25
Senior Member
Also, I think the new GO/VIA station was design in such a way to allow for an eastern extension without moving the building or access to the platforms.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Those corners are so sharp that even if you were to cant the curves you would have very low speeds.