GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

[Midtown Urbanist]

Just as a FYI, we have a new thread called "Transit Ridership Statistics & Tracking" for following along exciting ridership information like what Metrolinx recently released.

Just in case people want to continue discussing it after this thread inevitably enters another multi-page discussion cycle about reintroducing that morning Brampton train on the Kitchener line.

 

[steveintoronto]

Just as a FYI, we have a new thread called "Transit Ridership Statistics & Tracking" for following along exciting ridership information like what Metrolinx recently released.

Just in case people want to continue discussing it after this thread inevitably enters another multi-page discussion cycle about reintroducing that morning Brampton train on the Kitchener line.

Didn't realize that thread was so relevant. I see others have raised points being raised here. Excellent 'heads-up'!

 

[Neutrino]

Just as a FYI, we have a new thread called "Transit Ridership Statistics & Tracking" for following along exciting ridership information like what Metrolinx recently released.

Just in case people want to continue discussing it after this thread inevitably enters another multi-page discussion cycle about reintroducing that morning Brampton train on the Kitchener line.

Don't sleep on the return of the washrooms at station discussion.

 

[44 North]

The typos aside (really, did no one proof read)............

The most interesting thing to me is seeing where ridership is growing the most, being able to see if that correlates at all w/service expansion or station works.

Biggest increases in % terms, year over year.

Aurora - 30.5%
Kennedy - 28.2%
Bloor - 28%
King City - 22.5%
Old Cummer - 22%
E. Gwillimbury - 20.1%
Milliken - 18.7%
Kipling - 18%
Mt. Pleasant -17%
Gormley 16.9%
Agincourt - 15.2%
Guelph 14.9%
Newmarket 14.9%
Bradford 14.6%
Erindale - 14%
Weston - 14%

****

As a corridor, nothing comes close in % growth to Barrie which shot up over 20% last year.

Stouffville is second with 9.2%

****

LSE growth is modest at 4.3%.

But notable is the very strong growth in LSE from Danforth through Eglinton with range of 9-12% approx.

Most growth can be correlated to additional service in some way.

Milton though posting over 6% growth as a corridor has not seen much if anything new.

This is only an 8-month period, and seemingly the first time Metrolinx has released station numbers in over twelve years. So not exactly year over year, and hard to correlate any station/line trends over such a short period. Needs to be at least two years.

Would be nice to see an alternative to this map that instead of showing "growth" circle sizes, showed ridership circles. The growth could be included as a typed green/red percentage as it is currently, also done for a full year or two (i.e Nov 16-Nov 18). Stations that are less than a year would have an asterisk or be unlisted like UP. If you actually want to showcase the data without biases that's the way to do it.

crs1026 makes a good point about 416 stations. Wouldn't go so far as agreeing on their "growth" since again little info on previous years. But their numbers are certainly higher than I imagined.

 

[nfitz]

Just wanna point out that actually at nearly 1 million riders that Pearson appears to be the busiest non-Lakeshore Station

Using the usual rule of thumb of divide by 300, that's about 2,850 a weekday. So if it was a subway station, it would be less riders than Bessarion, but more than Ellesmere, Midland, and Downsview Park, ranking it 83 out of 86 in ridership.

 

[reaperexpress]

I'm continuing this convo over in the Transit Ridership Thread so we don't duplicate ourselves here.

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

There's a new GO Transit ridership map released by Metrolinx today. It includes rail lines and stations (including UP Express) for 2018. It's really interesting.

Mount Pleasant is the busiest non-Lakeshore Line station, followed by Bramalea and Aurora.

https://blog.metrolinx.com/2019/01/...-map-released-for-go-and-up-express-stations/

Oh that poor Milton line, still crazy ridership growth with few trains to match.

 

[Jonny5]

LOL West Harbour at "58/day." So sad they divert trains to that backwater dump.

 

[ShonTron]

Oh that poor Milton line, still crazy ridership growth with few trains to match.

The Milton Line has 10 trains that arrive at Union between 7AM and 9:30AM. The Kitchener Line has 7. For commuting to Toronto, Milton is better off. It also works because while CP doesn't want any midday/evening trains on its tracks, it has left a window free in its timetable in the AM and PM peaks for GO to operate as many trains as it can fit. That's why it's such a frequent, but packed, schedule.

 

[Allandale25]

^ Good point

 

[robmausser]

^ Certainly seems that the use of GO in the 416 is rising. Fare/transfer policy?

- Paul

Imagine what it would be like with the $3 go train ride within Toronto city proper that the Liberals were promising.

 

[nfitz]

Imagine what it would be like with the $3 go train ride within Toronto city proper that the Liberals were promising.

They more than promised it. They put it in the budget and approved it.

It must have explicitly been removed it from the budget.

 

[TOareaFan]

Imagine what it would be like with the $3 go train ride within Toronto city proper that the Liberals were promising.

I will never understand why this is just within Toronto proposal/idea.

 

[Leo_Chan]

I will never understand why this is just within Toronto proposal/idea.

That’s an idea, fixed GO fare (free transfer) based on the local transit fare and fare by distance once you leave your (regional) municipality.

 

[Bureaucromancer]

That’s an idea, fixed GO fare (free transfer) based on the local transit fare and fare by distance once you leave your (regional) municipality.

Which is also model that starts to make uploading and extending subways palatable.