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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

Note that most of the items deemed for completion in 2026 were items that are new to the RER Scope - the original plan for Stouffville grade separations was only Steeles and Finch. This seems to indicate that 5 additional separations have been added.

There will still be several crossings within the City of Toronto even after all the work:

- Progress Avenue
- Havendale Road
- Huntingwood Road
- Passmore Avenue

This is overall great news - I had serious concerns over 15 minute RER service operating on Stouffville with it's huge amounts of at grade crossings. It would caused a lot of traffic havoc with some major crossings getting shut down literally every 7.5 minutes, all day long.
 
innsertnamehere said:
Note that most of the items deemed for completion in 2026 were items that are new to the RER Scope - the original plan for Stouffville grade separations was only Steeles and Finch. This seems to indicate that 5 additional separations have been added.

There will still be several crossings within the City of Toronto even after all the work:

- Progress Avenue
- Havendale Road
- Huntingwood Road
- Passmore Avenue

This is overall great news - I had serious concerns over 15 minute RER service operating on Stouffville with it's huge amounts of at grade crossings. It would caused a lot of traffic havoc with some major crossings getting shut down literally every 7.5 minutes, all day long.
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how is that different than a normal red traffic light?
 
TOareaFan said:
The 401 tunnel and 4th track may be needed long term to get the Kitchener line up to 15 minute ReR type frequencies...but there s no way that it is "obvious" that it is needed to "offer any higher service levels"....something far more fundamental is blocking that.......the CN ownership of the tracks from just east of Bramalea to Georgetown comes to mind.
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Its not the actual trackage that is stopping it. It is the fact that they are doing construction.

Several people on here as well as Metrolinx have stated that they do not want to increase service, especially offer weekend service on the Kitchener Line until the construction is done. They want to have an unabated weekend to do service and not have to deal with even more trains than they already have to (the UPX)
 
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Transportation Minister John Yakabuski to make an announcement at Willowbrook GO yard tomorrow morning. Release doesn't say what it's about, but Metrolinx CEO Phil Verster and Etobicoke-Lakeshore MPP Christine Hogarth will be there.

11:14 AM - 19 Sep 2018

Ok, first formal announcement by the Ford government - any guess what it is? And also the new Del Duca photo ops?
 
mdrejhon said:
Stoufville phasing? Cloudy crystal ball. Ask me again after the municipal election.

Lakeshore's safe though, it'll be electrified this generation. Bet your mortgage on it for "by 2031", or your paycheck or "by 2026-2027".

It's so consistently masterplanned, GO 2020, Metrolinx 2031, Metrolinx 2041, even under earlier PC governments. Heck, it was the Conservatives who invented GO ALRT -- the first electrification concept for GO. That was just paper then. Today we have actual electrification provisions built and continuing to do so.

Early elements continually appear piecemeal. I see it when they demolished the John Street bridge and rebuilt it to OCS catenary height. I see it with the newly built concrete pads for future catenary portals at Whitby. The new Humber Bay bridge spans has OCS/portal structure provisions. Any newbuilds along Lakeshore is electrification ready already. The malarkey at Union Station shed to protect for future OCS. It's just a matter of time for Lakeshore, even if GO is still simply slipstreaming mini-pre-requisites continually until the one big mother-of-DBFOM or whatever. It's just a matter of time even if not 2025.
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It was also a conservative government that started GO transit in 1967 period

But the conservatives of old were much more progressive than the Harris or Ford cons
 
Streety McCarface said:
I'd be surprised if the tories cancel it tbh. It's quite the white elephant but it adhere too well to their view of "transit" to cancel.
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Exactly. Politics has nothing to do with responsible spending or social programs or anything anymore, its all rhetoric and branding .

The PC's are anti LRT or any transit that possibly takes away from drivers.

They are ok with GO RER because a) it will help people outside of the downtown who are in their vote base and b) its not an LRT.

GO expansion fits the Tories brand.
 
hw621 said:
Ben Spurr‏Verified account@BenSpurr 2m2 minutes ago




Transportation Minister John Yakabuski to make an announcement at Willowbrook GO yard tomorrow morning. Release doesn't say what it's about, but Metrolinx CEO Phil Verster and Etobicoke-Lakeshore MPP Christine Hogarth will be there.

11:14 AM - 19 Sep 2018

Ok, first formal announcement by the Ford government - any guess what it is? And also the new Del Duca photo ops?
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15 minute off-peak Lakeshore East service that was mentioned here awhile ago?
 
robmausser said:
Its not the actual trackage that is stopping it. It is the fact that they are doing construction.

Several people on here as well as Metrolinx have stated that they do not want to increase service, especially offer weekend service on the Kitchener Line until the construction is done. They want to have an unabated weekend to do service and not have to deal with even more trains than they already have to (the UPX)
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I have seen no such claims....but, I'll take your word for it......but once you get those tunnels built, you can only run the extra service as far as Malton without CN's permission/agreement.
 
Reecemartin said:
Got this from Metrolinx

"We are still moving ahead with GO Expansion (we call RER GO Expansion now), 15 minute, two-way, all-day GO on core segments of the network. This wasn't a focus at the most recent board meeting. You can check on progress and announcements here: http://www.metrolinx.com/en/greaterregion/default.aspx"

And interestingly "Stay tuned for more news on GO Expansion-related service increases very soon!"
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You think if this is Verster's trick to hold off service expansion announcement for the new government, just to please them?
 
Reecemartin said:
Also should we be concerned that the Stouffville doc didn't mention Electrification
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No, electrification is considered a separate project by Metrolinx rather than corridor expansion since it is being issued as a singular network wide contract for construction, making it difficult to break costs down by corridor.
 
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