allengeorge
Senior Member
I am not busting out the champagne yet - especially when it comes to frequencies. This is just the first part. The entire buildout is supposed to be 10+ billion dollars and 10 years is a long time.
I am not busting out the champagne yet - especially when it comes to frequencies. This is just the first part. The entire buildout is supposed to be 10+ billion dollars and 10 years is a long time.
All the more reason to get emus on the medium term. Perhaps they could stop gap with elect locos but no way they can achieve 210s gaps with those behemoth cattlecarsif they achieve frequencies anywhere close to what they're suggesting (less than 10 minutes, essentially), GO will basically be an express subway service in toronto especially once electrification speeds up train departures
trips being faster and more frequent is going to be a godsend.
Which is why we need room for passing tracks left at as many stations as possible. Besides, a high frequency could include express trains.Regarding headways: Be careful what you wish for regarding very short headways. If your line only has a single track per direction (Barrie, Stouffville, LSE following introduction of line-based running) and your local service is very frequent, you can't have any express services. I for one don't want to be making every station stop en route from Barrie to Toronto.
Which is why we need room for passing tracks left at as many stations as possible. Besides, a high frequency could include express trains.
Caledonia GO? Was there another announcement that I missed?Luckily, GO has several parts of it's network which are entirely grade separated (or are planned to be from GO Expansion), and several more which are very close to that level.
- Stouffville from Unionville to Union
- Lakeshore West from Long Branch to Union
- Barrie to Caledonia GO
- Kitchener to Malton GO
- Lakeshore East to Eglinton GO
GO station going to be built at the Caledonia LRT station on the crosstown, not a GO station in Caledonia, Ontario, which is very, very far from the Barrie GO line and doesn't really even have a useful rail line which could even be used for GO service.Caledonia GO? Was there another announcement that I missed?
I don’t understand why there so much concern about the lack of EMU. This is only the beginning of a transition for GO. There’s nothing wrong with running electric locomotives with the current Bilevels. Plenty of countries run commuter services with electric hauled locomotives (eg.SNCF, SBB etc.). I think concerns over acceleration are also overblown. Worst case scenario would be GO having two locomotives hauling a train.
When is that going to be built?GO station going to be built at the Caledonia LRT station on the crosstown, not a GO station in Caledonia, Ontario, which is very, very far from the Barrie GO line and doesn't really even have a useful rail line which could even be used for GO service.
It's a shame that the rest of the Kitchener line won't be electrified.General Provincial Press Release here:
Ontario Newsroom
news.ontario.ca
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