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Globe: Second NHL Team for Toronto?

Of couse, sending a team to Sacramento was a bit of a joke, but really it isn't given the NHL these days.

Apparently, Buttman's latest strategy is also taken from the NBA (think Jack Nicholson at Lakers Games) - they're giving away free luxury box tickets to Hollywood celebrities to go to the games to be shown on TV broadcasts. Ah-nold made an apperance at Game 1, probably getting more attention than the game itself. CBC had a story on this yesterday.

Wow.
 
I think we'd be able to support two teams in Toronto. But it's really Leaf nation here. Maybe Hamilton or KW would be giving it a better chance.
 
I would support both. Hamilton the most, but KW would still be an great consolation prize.
 
Jim Balsillie signed another agreement with the city of Hamilton to lease Copps Coliseum. I'm not getting too excited, since Hamilton's been through all this before. Bettman clearly doesn't want a team in Hamilton (Hamilton had the best bid in 1990, but they gave teams to Ottawa and Tampa). I don't think they should have publicized Balsillie's agreement with Hamilton before he's actually purchased the team, since when he tried to buy the Penguins the deal seemed to fall through after it became clear Balsillie wanted to move them.
 
Copps Colliseum would be a very good interim facility (say for 3-4 years) as it might have been adequate for 1990, it probably wouldn't be now with today's arenas. It does have a great location, however.

So many rumours right now. Imagine a new NHL team in a proven market! It's not rocket science!

Here's the article:

Hamilton could be home for Predators

Copps might be perfect as a temporary arena for Balsillie's NHL team

May 31, 2007 04:30 AM
Damien Cox
HOCKEY COLUMNIST

ANAHEIM, CALIF.–The Nashville Predators may be headed for Hamilton, at least temporarily.

Waterloo billionaire Jim Balsillie, who has a letter of agreement to buy the Predators that closes June 30, last night re-activated an exclusive lease arrangement with Hamilton city council in which he could use the facility temporarily or permanently as home to an NHL team.

The deal would give Balsillie and the Predators 100 per cent of revenues from Copps, including naming rights to the 22-year-old facility, and possibly the rights to run Hamilton Place and the downtown convention centre. Balsillie had a similar arrangement in place last year, but let it lapse in October.

"(Balsillie) has assured me that he wants to secure a team and he is interested in bringing it to Hamilton," mayor Fred Eisenberger told the Hamilton Spectator last night after Hamilton city council okayed the deal. "Certainly he has the resources to do it and we will leave it up to him to pull it together."

This, naturally, will inflame speculation about the future of the Predators, particularly after NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said on Monday that suggestions the team will be moving out of Tennessee are premature.

Balsillie used the company Golden Horseshoe Sports and Entertainment Inc. to negotiate the lease with Hamilton.

"It is simply a contingency plan in the unlikely event that the Predators arena lease terminates prior to its normal course expiration," said Richard Rodier, Balsillie's lawyer, in an e-mail last night.

Many believe Balsillie's ultimate goal is to move the Predators to the Kitchener-Waterloo area, although he has never confirmed that publicly. To do so, however, he would likely need a temporary home, and Copps Coliseum, is the largest NHL-type facility in the region.

To use Copps even temporarily, however, Balsillie might still have to pay indemnification fees to the Maple Leafs, who have exclusive territorial rights to a 50-mile area outside of Toronto, and possibly the Buffalo Sabres as well. The Kitchener-Waterloo area, however, falls outside of those exclusive zones. Balsillie reached an agreement last week to buy the Predators for $220 million (U.S.) from Craig Leipold.

Bettman met with Balsillie last week and told reporters the Research in Motion czar told him he doesn't have specific plans to move the team to southern Ontario.

dcox@thestar.ca
 
Some people say that Sacramento has the worst arena in the NBA. Ottawa's Scotiabank Place is located in a suburban office park. Sacramento's ARCO Arena is not only located in a suburban office park, but the building itself looks like it should belong in an office park.

To be fair, Scotiabaank Place wasn't built in an office park. It was built in a farm field. The office park came much later.

I'm not sure that's any better, though.
 
The Record
Friday, June 01, 2007 | Updated at 7:17 AM EDT


Balsillie's pal high on region
Moving Predators to Hamilton 'a million-to-one long shot'; Hamilton's Ron Foxcroft says RIM boss will review all options
JEFF HICKS
(Jun 1, 2007)

A prominent Hamilton entrepreneur -- and golfing buddy of Waterloo billionaire and Nashville Predators owner-in-waiting Jim Balsillie -- figures Waterloo Region is a terrific spot for Balsillie to move his NHL team.

"If it doesn't come to Hamilton, it would be great up in Waterloo, wouldn't it?" Ron Foxcroft said yesterday.

"Cambridge, Waterloo, Kitchener, London, Guelph. Your catchment area would be fabulous . . . My own feeling -- and I'm in the business of sport -- is you'd sell out every night."

Foxcroft, 61, has some expertise.

The former co-owner of the Hamilton Bulldogs American Hockey League pro team is much more than the president of Hamilton's Fluke Transportation Group, which operates 400 trucks.

The Burlington resident and former Olympic basketball referee also works for the NBA evaluating referees.

He invented the Fox 40 pea-less whistle, which is used by sports refs in 140 countries. His company also supplies metal pea whistles for the NHL, which Balsillie is poised to enter as an owner June 30.

Balsillie, co-chief executive of BlackBerry maker Research In Motion, appears to have plans to move the Predators out of Nashville, after agreeing to pay $220 million for the money-losing NHL club.

If Predators' paid attendance in Nashville sags below 14,000 again next season, Balsillie could be within his rights to move the franchise.

Waterloo Region is an option.

Of course, Hamilton is too.

On Wednesday, Hamilton re-activated an agreement with Balsillie. The deal, which was cancelled last October during his ill-fated bid to purchase the Pittsburgh Penguins for $175 million, gives Balsillie exclusive rights to bring an NHL team to Copps Coliseum. The 22-year-old Hamilton rink, which seats 17,500, is home to the Bulldogs.

But Foxcroft doesn't believe that makes Hamilton Balsillie's preferred Ontario destination for the Preds.

"Jim is just being a good businessman," said Foxcroft, who sometimes attends Toronto Raptors NBA games with Balsillie.

"He's reviewing all his options. He's putting all his options in a row. How far up the row Hamilton is, only he knows."

Balsillie has kept silent.

Foxcroft said Balsillie isn't giving anyone in Hamilton false hope.

Hamilton hockey fans, who've long dreamed of an NHL team playing in their city even though a Hamilton entry would be trespassing on the territorial rights of the Toronto Maple Leafs and Buffalo Sabres, are cautious.

"Nobody in Hamilton has any false expectations," Foxcroft said.

"No one is going out right now putting deposits on season tickets."

Speculation is that Balsillie could be using Hamilton as a pawn for leverage in other negotiations. Hamilton could also be a temporary stopover for a relocated Predators team while a new arena is built elsewhere in Ontario.

It's no slam-dunk for Steeltown.

"Hamilton people also have their feet on the ground," said Foxcroft, who considers Balsillie a down-to-earth person who puts his family first.

"They know it's a million-to-one long shot. But Hamilton people know (of) Jim. They like Jim. They respect his success. They don't know him personally but Hamilton is really starved for a good news story. Hamilton has problems, economic problems. The commercial industrial base is waning."

Meanwhile, Foxcroft believes Waterloo Region is booming in comparison.

He figures a Balsillie-owned NHL club will be a winner. Winning teams sell out in true hockey markets.

"He's not only well-capitalized, he knows what the heck he's doing," said Foxcroft, who met Balsillie four years ago.

"Knowing him the way I know him, the way he's driven and the passion he's got, he would hire the best and brightest hockey minds that were available in the world to make sure that he had a winner. One thing about Jim you probably know, he hates to lose."

Foxcroft, who plans to call Balsillie next week to set up a golf game at their favourite course in Buffalo, knows that well.

Foxcroft once won $20 from Balsillie by beating him in a round of golf.

Balsillie shook as he handed over the money at the end of the round.

"I turned to him and said, 'Jim, it's only 20 bucks'," Foxcroft recalled.

"He said, 'No, it isn't. It's the pride. It's the pride.' "

Foxcroft said he hasn't given Balsillie any advice on where an NHL team should go. Nor has he tried to convince Balsillie to set up a team in Hamilton.

"I would never do that unless he asked," Foxcroft said.

"If he asked, being a lifer Hamiltonian, I'd tell him all the advantages and disadvantages I was aware of. But he hasn't asked. We don't have that kind of relationship. We have a personal relationship. We like each other's company. We like doing 'jock' things together like golf and basketball and watching hockey."

Occasionally, Foxcroft and Balsillie also meet up when their teenage sons play rep basketball against each other.

Balsillie enjoys coaching his son's team.

Foxcroft is sure of one thing regarding Balsillie, whose deal to by the Preds must be approved by the league.

Balsillie won't let another chance to own an NHL team slip away.

"No way," Foxcroft said.

jhicks@therecord.com
 
Globe

Link to article


Predators inch closer to Hamilton
Balsillie, council expected to announce deal that Ontario city would be only destination if team is moved


DAVID SHOALTS



June 13, 2007 at 9:30 AM EDT

Jim Balsillie's representatives and lawyers for the City of Hamilton are expected to reach an agreement this morning that if he completes the purchase of the Nashville Predators and decides to move the team, it would be moved only to Hamilton.

A source familiar with the negotiations said the Hamilton city council hopes to announce the deal, which Balsillie and his representatives insist is a contingency plan, after its meeting tonight. Also expected to be announced is an agreement that Balsillie will take over management of Hamilton Entertainment and Convention Facilities Inc., a city corporation that operates Copps Coliseum, a convention centre, Hamilton Place and a parking garage.

The new agreement would take the Kitchener-Waterloo area of Ontario out of the running.


It had been speculated that Balsillie, the co-chief executive officer of BlackBerry manufacturer Research In Motion, wanted to move the Predators to Kitchener-Waterloo, the location of his company's headquarters.

Balsillie's lawyer, Richard Rodier, is expected to finish negotiating the deals with Hamilton city lawyers this morning. They will be presented to council for approval tonight.

However, the plans are conditional on Balsillie's $220-million (U.S.) purchase of the Predators. One National Hockey League governor, who requested anonymity, said he and a number of his peers are not happy with the way Balsillie is conducting his bid for the team.

They are upset that while Balsillie is telling people in Nashville the team will not move as long as an arena lease (which has an out-clause based on attendance) is in place, he is also negotiating with Hamilton.

"If you join a club or a fraternity, it is a bunch of people who have to work together in a partnership," the governor said. "Sometimes you have to give up what you want for the greater good of the league. This is not the way to come in [to the NHL].

"In my travels, I've already had people, unasked, say, 'Who is this clown?' I've had three clubs mention this to me."

The governor said the three clubs were not in Southern Ontario, a reference to the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Buffalo Sabres. Under NHL rules, a team cannot move within 80 kilometres of the corporate limits of another NHL city without that club's permission and the approval of the board of governors.

However, Balsillie and his representatives have let it be known that they interpret the rules to say only the consent of a majority of NHL governors is necessary. There is also a belief among NHL people that Balsillie is willing to win the right to move to Hamilton in a court battle.

A formal application to purchase the team was presented recently to the NHL and Balsillie's representatives are working on a purchase agreement with the Predators. A letter of intent states the deal must close by June 30, but that could be extended in the purchase agreement.

Balsillie is hoping the purchase will be approved by the NHL governors at their meeting on June 20 in order to begin making plans for the player roster. But an NHL source said that is not going to happen because the bid will not be ready for approval.

The Canadian Competition Bureau is also looking into the proposed move to see whether the NHL's bylaws violate Canadian laws governing monopolies.

But if Balsillie's purchase of the Predators from Craig Leipold is not approved by the governors, those problems would become moot. Speculation is that Balsillie paid more than the market price for the Predators to head off opposition from the NHL governors because that raises the market value of many franchises.

However, the NHL governor said, the league does not want to make the mistake of allowing someone to buy a team, only to discover he is a maverick.

"You get in the club and everyone thinks you'll be okay, but you turn out to be a pain in the ass," the governor said. "This guy is showing he is a pain in the ass before he even gets in the club."

When the governor's remarks were relayed to Rodier, he responded with a statement by e-mail pointing out the other prospective buyer for the Predators, venture capitalist William (Boots) Del Biaggio, also has a contingency plan.

"We are under the impression that the sale is on the agenda for the June 19 executive committee meeting and the June 20 [governors] meeting and we have not otherwise been informed by the NHL," Rodier said. "Since we are not doing anything different than Boots Del Biaggio has done in having a lease agreement with the Sprint Centre in Kansas City, we fail to understand why the NHL would have any problem.

"We are simply making contingency plans since the team would need a place to play in the event that the lease in Nashville were to terminate prior to its expiration date and nothing else."

A spokesman for Hamilton Mayor Fred Eisenberger said there would be no comment until after tonight's council meeting.

That contingency plan would be nailed down a little tighter if Balsillie reaches an agreement that the Predators would move only to Hamilton.

By giving Balsillie the right to manage venues that include Copps Coliseum, where the Predators would play, the city could save as much as $1-million a year. Hamilton Entertainment and Convention Facilities has an annual deficit of about $4-million, but the agreement with Balsillie is expected to see him take on some of that, with the city handling about $3-million of the deficit.

However, Copps Coliseum would be a temporary home. Balsillie told NHL commissioner Gary Bettman last year that if he moves a team to Hamilton, he would build a new arena.

Asked about the pending agreements with Hamilton, Rodier would say only that any relocation would depend on the Nashville arena lease no longer being valid and on the consent of the NHL.
 
London's not quite that big. The Metro area includes St. Thomas and Strathroy, which really are independant from London. Kitchener-Waterloo-Cambridge is not only bigger than London, but has a much greater population within one hour drive - Hamilton, Guelph, London, Woodstock, Brantford, parts of Misississauga and Brampton. London to Hamilton is a bit of a stretch, you wouldn't get the west 905, but would get K-W, and only gain Chatham and maybe Sarnia for cities of 50,000 or more.
 
We've just put a deposit on season's tickets...fortunatley it's refundable! I have a feeling that Buttman and some in the NHL aren't taking too kindly to Balsillie's intentions.
 
The Hammer or K/W+C: Not a subway series--a GO Train series.

You might be right. The day that the Leafs make it to the Stanley Cup finals is the day we have an effective, region-wide rail network.

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The Hamilton Predators?

Everyone: I agree that the Hamilton area could support a NHL team. If the NY/NJ area can support 3 teams the Golden Horseshoe can...if you also count the nearby Buffalo Sabres. It could become quite a NHL rivalry in an area that has many hockey fans. This team move will be interesting if it gets approved! LI MIKE
 
Yeh I don't think it's disputed that the area could support another team. From what I've read it was the Sabres that were the most aggresive in opposing a franchise in Hamilton as apparently around 20% of their fan base is on the Niagara peninsula. This would be less of an issue in K-W as it is beond the 80k distance mark for Buffalo and downtown TO. Either way I hope Balsillie knows what he is doing- apparently Buttman and co. aren't too happy with his tactics so far.
 

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