Finch West Line 6 LRT

[Steve X]

Humber College station should be covered over completely, having to clear snow from a below ground platform is just dumb.

That should have been the biggest issue with this line.

You tell that to Calgary, they built some stations like that too. Oh yeah, there is Davisville Station too.

 

[Jac.]

Humber College station should be covered over completely, having to clear snow from a below ground platform is just dumb.

That should have been the biggest issue with this line.

Call me lazy but that walk between Humber College Station and the bus terminal, especially during the winter is infuriating... Did they ever consider moving the bus terminal closer or, like what's up with that? But yeah the fact that the station isn't covered makes that station feel almost like a joke to me. I also don't know why before the station (heading in westbound) it goes down, then curves, and then goes right back up only to go down again into the station, how did that pass planning? Is there something I am missing. That whole area fascinates me.

 

[ssiguy2]

Most CTrain stations have heated enclosed waiting areas except the downtown portion. Anyway, even putting this useless piece of infrastructure in the same sentence as the CTrain is an insult to Calgarians. In stark contrast to Finch, the CTrain is LRT done right and it's high ridership is a reflection of that.

I do agree with Thaboss, that this embarrassment of a line and the scorn it is justifiably getting from the public and media may have the silver bullet of forcing the TTC & City to aggressively implement light priorities and hopefully reduce the number of stops on the LRT & streetcar routes. This lemon of a line may actually turn into lemonade but only if the public keeps the pressure on and makes it clear this will be an election issue.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Humber College station should be covered over completely, having to clear snow from a below ground platform is just dumb.

That should have been the biggest issue with this line.

I feel like this is a new trend to reduce costs so they don't need to install ventilation. Ottawa will have two similar stations on line 1 West that are actually in a tunnel, but the platform portion will be exposed to the sky. Ventilation was the justification

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Maybe the TTC should slow the buses down so the LRT doesn't look so bad...

Don’t give them any ideas - I wouldn’t put it pass them to come up with such perverse innovations.

AoD

 

[dowlingm]

Call me lazy but that walk between Humber College Station and the bus terminal, especially during the winter is infuriating... Did they ever consider moving the bus terminal closer or, like what's up with that? But yeah the fact that the station isn't covered makes that station feel almost like a joke to me. I also don't know why before the station (heading in westbound) it goes down, then curves, and then goes right back up only to go down again into the station, how did that pass planning? Is there something I am missing. That whole area fascinates me.

Is there a likelihood Humber may seek to build over the parking lot (thus providing an indoor path) using the improved (yes, yes) transit as justification?

 

[MisterF]

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This map should be on every subway train and station.

You tell that to Calgary, they built some stations like that too. Oh yeah, there is Davisville Station too.

The platforms at Davisville are covered.

 

[Steve X]

Is there a likelihood Humber may seek to build over the parking lot (thus providing an indoor path) using the improved (yes, yes) transit as justification?

If they ever expand, certainly they can do that. However since they operate to profit, this would require a lot more international students which isn't happening anymore.

The platforms at Davisville are covered.

Davisville and Rosedale (the other one I forgot) are covered directly but wind/snow blows sideways, snow sometimes ends up on the platform.

 

[hw621]

We need Doug Ford to step in and remove operations responsibility from TTC and hire Alstom/Mosaic to operate this line.

We're not waiting to "Q1 2026" for staff to make a report that still doesn't get the line to advertised speeds (which might not even be implemented).

Most likely they will come back with some half ass recommendation and the TTC will spend over a year to implement...

 

[Bordercollie]

Most likely they will come back with some half ass recommendation and the TTC will spend over a year to implement...

The city is going to pass a initiative to try to speed up the line. It's spearheaded by the mayor

 

[innsertnamehere]

I'm concerned that the political initiative here is focused on signal priority, which while it will help, is ignoring the real problem with the line that politicians don't seem to be acknowledging - and that is that the TTC is simply operating the line far to cautiously. You could delete every stop light on the line and this thing would still have terrible travel times because the TTC refuses to run it faster than 30km//h.

 

[Bordercollie]

I'm concerned that the political initiative here is focused on signal priority, which while it will help, is ignoring the real problem with the line that politicians don't seem to be acknowledging - and that is that the TTC is simply operating the line far to cautiously. You could delete every stop light on the line and this thing would still have terrible travel times because the TTC refuses to run it faster than 30km//h.

Why don't you wait and see what their plan is before criticizing it?

 

[Thaboss]

I'm concerned that the political initiative here is focused on signal priority, which while it will help, is ignoring the real problem with the line that politicians don't seem to be acknowledging - and that is that the TTC is simply operating the line far to cautiously. You could delete every stop light on the line and this thing would still have terrible travel times because the TTC refuses to run it faster than 30km//h.

Chow explicitly mentions increasing the speed on the line itself AND tsp adj. As the steps she'll be pushing.

Proof is in the pudding of course but I think we gotta wait and see here

 

[smallspy]

I also don't know why before the station (heading in westbound) it goes down, then curves, and then goes right back up only to go down again into the station, how did that pass planning? Is there something I am missing. That whole area fascinates me.

The reasoning for having the line ramp up and down is that it meant that less soil needed to be excavated during construction and sped up that process. And once open it greatly simplifies emergency access. Now they simply have a pair of gates at ground level. If they kept it deep, they would need at the very least staircases, and possibly as elaborate as a building to cover them.

Of course, the fact that the line is built adjacent to what is ostensibly a highway helps, as there will almost certainly never be any need to redevelop that land or above the tracks.

Dan

 

[lrt's friend]

Toronto is making the same mistake as Ottawa. They open the line without it being optimized. This turns everybody off. How can it take an hour to go less than 11 km? You would expect much better performance in a seperate transit lane.

After seeing what has happened here in Ottawa, operations are extremely cautious to protect the trains. The bogie problem with this model has never been resolved and dwell times are extended to protect the fragile doors from public abuse. Very little has been done to speed up trains in Ottawa, so the Finch speed problem may be a feature that makes transit worse in the long-term after spending a pile of money

All the complex safety features in modern LRT are not designed for speed.