Long Island Mike
Senior Member
Everyone: I decided to ask about how much fare evasion that the TTC endures after I read about those two high-profile cases of token counterfeiting and remembering a recent incident on a NYC Transit bus in Brooklyn where a bus driver was stabbed to death after confronting a farebeater.
I remember that for example that the TTC bus bays at many stations were wide open and protected by literally nothing more than a warning sign.
How much problems does the TTC have with those sneaking thru turnstiles or illegally entering a bus or streetcar at a rear door?
What is the penalty for those caught farebeating? Two examples I will note here in NYC are:
NYC Transit: A summonsable offense-ticket written with the offender subject to arrest usually. The offender is usually fined. NYC Transit has been tough with farebeaters in recent years-because many of those offenders cause other trouble in the transit system.
PATH(Port Authority Trans-Hudson System) between NY and NJ:
I recall being told by a PA Police officer back in the 80s that the penalty for farebeating was one hundred times the current fare-when the fare was fifty cents it was fifty bucks for example.
Today the PATH fare is $1.75-One Hundred Seventy Five Bucks would be somewhat of a hefty fine-let alone being subject to arrest also.
Do the TTC Constables or Toronto Police arrest or prosecute offenders?
Are there any trouble spots with fare evasion problems?
I do not remember problems anyplace on my past Toronto trips-what has changed these days? Any comments or observations anyone?
- Long Island Mike -
I remember that for example that the TTC bus bays at many stations were wide open and protected by literally nothing more than a warning sign.
How much problems does the TTC have with those sneaking thru turnstiles or illegally entering a bus or streetcar at a rear door?
What is the penalty for those caught farebeating? Two examples I will note here in NYC are:
NYC Transit: A summonsable offense-ticket written with the offender subject to arrest usually. The offender is usually fined. NYC Transit has been tough with farebeaters in recent years-because many of those offenders cause other trouble in the transit system.
PATH(Port Authority Trans-Hudson System) between NY and NJ:
I recall being told by a PA Police officer back in the 80s that the penalty for farebeating was one hundred times the current fare-when the fare was fifty cents it was fifty bucks for example.
Today the PATH fare is $1.75-One Hundred Seventy Five Bucks would be somewhat of a hefty fine-let alone being subject to arrest also.
Do the TTC Constables or Toronto Police arrest or prosecute offenders?
Are there any trouble spots with fare evasion problems?
I do not remember problems anyplace on my past Toronto trips-what has changed these days? Any comments or observations anyone?
- Long Island Mike -
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