taal
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http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/a-message-from-toronto-life/2011/08/12/preville-teaser/
So I'm surprised a thread about this hasn't surfaced yet ...
Unfortunately the article isn't online but has anyone read it, I have ... unfortunately ...
Lot's of commentary online one included a link to this article claiming many of the largest (coolest?) US cities i.e. New York, San Francisco are loosing many people in the 35-45 range to their respective suburbs ... over the last decade or so ...
Clearly this happens in Toronto as well ... but is it a surprise to many, no !
I think getting the age correct is important, while the Toronto Life article is based on nothing but the editors claims and few 'interviews', I loved the one with the cottage owners who wanted a shorter commute.
So by this I mean, I think when many people have kids they still leave the city, not all, but some. I don't think this will change in North America on a whole for a very long time. But you know what, I'm willing to bet this happens in Europe too, I know many people from London who leave the city for very similar reasons.
Anyway, whenever money comes up as a reason, which is mentioned many times it's very much a self fulfilling prophecy ... that is if you believe that this is happening in droves ... eventually prices come down in Toronto.
I find the comments about littering and the like very silly, there are just so many more people here that you're going to notice the bad apples.
An interesting point though is this isn't a downtown Toronto verse suburb debate, maybe it is, but the examples given are more along the lines of inner suburbs (downtown still) verse the 905.
Which is a little strange in it self, I really didn't understand any of the arguments made between a life in the beaches and a life in say oakville ... a lot of the argument stemed around making life more 'livable' calm - most people I know who live in the beach are just like this though today, hence why I assume they live there.
Now I do know people *from work* who live in said 905 suburbs (but not suburbs as in the old towns ...) so what I ask them for the most part is what's the difference between said area and say Yonge and Lawrence (Not Eglinton, as I can see people complaining about the night live ... believe it or not, or in general the large portion of 'younger' folks). The answer I always get is price and commute (as I work in the suburbs) and at first a sense of its too crowded (keep in mind these are poeple who live on quaint 905 towns, not 'suburbs' per say).
So I'm surprised a thread about this hasn't surfaced yet ...
Unfortunately the article isn't online but has anyone read it, I have ... unfortunately ...
Lot's of commentary online one included a link to this article claiming many of the largest (coolest?) US cities i.e. New York, San Francisco are loosing many people in the 35-45 range to their respective suburbs ... over the last decade or so ...
Clearly this happens in Toronto as well ... but is it a surprise to many, no !
I think getting the age correct is important, while the Toronto Life article is based on nothing but the editors claims and few 'interviews', I loved the one with the cottage owners who wanted a shorter commute.
So by this I mean, I think when many people have kids they still leave the city, not all, but some. I don't think this will change in North America on a whole for a very long time. But you know what, I'm willing to bet this happens in Europe too, I know many people from London who leave the city for very similar reasons.
Anyway, whenever money comes up as a reason, which is mentioned many times it's very much a self fulfilling prophecy ... that is if you believe that this is happening in droves ... eventually prices come down in Toronto.
I find the comments about littering and the like very silly, there are just so many more people here that you're going to notice the bad apples.
An interesting point though is this isn't a downtown Toronto verse suburb debate, maybe it is, but the examples given are more along the lines of inner suburbs (downtown still) verse the 905.
Which is a little strange in it self, I really didn't understand any of the arguments made between a life in the beaches and a life in say oakville ... a lot of the argument stemed around making life more 'livable' calm - most people I know who live in the beach are just like this though today, hence why I assume they live there.
Now I do know people *from work* who live in said 905 suburbs (but not suburbs as in the old towns ...) so what I ask them for the most part is what's the difference between said area and say Yonge and Lawrence (Not Eglinton, as I can see people complaining about the night live ... believe it or not, or in general the large portion of 'younger' folks). The answer I always get is price and commute (as I work in the suburbs) and at first a sense of its too crowded (keep in mind these are poeple who live on quaint 905 towns, not 'suburbs' per say).
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