salsa
Senior Member
luckily once the construction contract for the surface portion of Eglinton is tendered in the next year or so it will finally be done.
It won't be. People will still argue that it should have been different.
luckily once the construction contract for the surface portion of Eglinton is tendered in the next year or so it will finally be done.
luckily once the construction contract for the surface portion of Eglinton is tendered in the next year or so it will finally be done.
Sigh. It will never end, the same people will be here arguing for it years and years indefinitely into the future, typing the same arguments again and again year after year.
If you actually think that would happen, then your understanding of how politics, and the world works, are very, very misguided.My real hope is that an election is called and then either current or former Metrolinx employees come out and state that the elevated option was always the preferred option by Metrolinx, however, instructions from the Ministers and Premiers Office forced Metrolinx to not release any favourable reports related to elevation.
What you are saying is that it is $2B extra for going underground, and it could cost about $2B (or more) less if sections are elevated for the Malvern to Mount Dennis portion - provided they would have explored the option right from the start. There probably would have been maybe an extra $500M required for the Malvern to Pearson line - which is not very much on a $7B+ line.
http://skytrainforsurrey.org/2012/0...uing-this-technology-and-not-lrt-on-eglinton/
The use of the same technology which is currently servicing two of three lines on the Vancouver SkyTrain system on the west coast of Canada with Bombardier Innovia Metro/ART trains (or comparable) and with Linear Induction Motor track would provide the same cost savings that moving a portion of the LRT at-grade would and more, despite a need for complete grade separation of the line. It would provide faster, more reliable service and be more flexible in capacity expansion, and also remove the travel time penalty associated with at-grade LRT.
http://livenews.thestar.com/Event/L..._Wynne_speaks_to_Toronto_Star_editorial_board
wynne says she will keep subway!
seriously why are you so gullible... you seem to take every politicians word for fact. she says she will work with council. If you get a pro lrt council all of a sudden she will be supportive of lrt. All she is saying is that she is supportive of council making its decision.
I'm just quoting what she said man, I'm not saying I believe it.
sorry but emphatically using exclamation points when posting after someone says something pro subway leads me to believe you take these things as set in stone facts.
The proponents insist the $3.1 billion project, which will replace the derelict Scarborough RT, is an opportunity to bring rapid transit to a subway-free suburb.
Yet as Spacing will reveal in detail over the next few days, Premier Kathleen Wynne and transportation minister Glen Murray ignored their own technical experts and quietly encouraged Toronto city council to tear up an $8.4 billion transit master agreement signed by the two levels of government in November, 2012. The alternative: a costly three-stop subway instead of a fully-funded seven-stop LRT situated within walking distance of more residents in more communities.
Through a series of freedom of information (FOI) requests to the City of Toronto, Metrolinx and the Ontario government, Spacing has obtained dozens of internal documents, emails, and reports about the genesis and execution of the Scarborough subway decision. We will report on the contents over the next several days.
The documents show a government that blithely disregarded inconvenient financial and technical information to pursue a politically-motivated goal. They also reveal how a freelancing TTC chair, Karen Stintz, and a wildly vacillating city council ignored their own staff’s expert advice and committed Toronto taxpayers to a project whose true costs are still not fully understood.
These as-yet unknown expenses will be added to the $85 million in sunk costs associated with planning work done on the now cancelled Scarborough LRT/LRV maintenance-storage facility. Metrolinx has told the City of Toronto that it must absorb those expenses on top of the estimated $1 billion in additional cost associated with the subway project.
The provincial government and Metrolinx, moreover, redacted several key documents, including a June, 2013, power point presentation outlining the implications of the decision, prepared by senior Metrolinx planner Jack Collins.
Sounds like a biased article if I ever heard one.
Sounds like a biased article if I ever heard one.