Second_in_pie
Senior Member
Elaborate?Sarah Thomson is the most realistic.
And that's a sign that we're screwed.
Elaborate?Sarah Thomson is the most realistic.
And that's a sign that we're screwed.
Elaborate?
Sarah Thomson is the most realistic, but is unlikely to win or even come close to that.
And each of the front-runners feeds too much BS.
Ah, I see. I think that Sarah Thompson would actually make a great mayor. Not just for her Transit Plan, but I think she's got a real vision for the city. It's problems, solutions, and possibilities.Sarah Thomson is the most realistic, but is unlikely to win or even come close to that.
And each of the front-runners feeds too much BS.
I haven't been paying attention to Pantalone. Can you clarify? He thinks the rest of the unfunded Transit City is only $8-billion? In 2010 dollars? I'm not even sure it would be that much - much of the heavy lifting has been done. Or does that includie the Metrolinx Phase 2 2015 to 2020 stuff. Or does that include the entire project ... which obviously it can't ...Even finishing the rest of Transit City (and it's ridiculous that Pantalone still thinks it will only cost $8 billion) will be dependent on provincial funding.
I haven't been paying attention to Pantalone. Can you clarify? He thinks the rest of the unfunded Transit City is only $8-billion? In 2010 dollars? I'm not even sure it would be that much - much of the heavy lifting has been done. Or does that includie the Metrolinx Phase 2 2015 to 2020 stuff. Or does that include the entire project ... which obviously it can't ...
George Smitherman's plan is expensive. Seven billion in funding from Toronto and it doesn't include a DRL. He currently has my vote, but I'd like it if he'd at least include the DRL on paper.
I went with Smitherman. Unlike his opponents, his plan acknowledges parts of Transit City that are beyond the point of no return, and generally improves on the overall project. Unfortunately, funding remains a serious question...
Sarah Thomson's plan is also very good, and looks to alternative methods of funding. With our extensive commuter rail system reaching virtually all corners of the GTA, and less than an hour travel from the furthest rapid transit station with parking to downtown, there is no reason why we don't have rush hour tolls, or at least extra taxes for downtown parking. Cities like Ottawa, Calgary, and Vancouver have parking levies, and their systems are far less extensive than Toronto's. Unfortunately, her plan also calls for canceling the Sheppard LRT. While it is easy to critisize the line, I'd rather see it go through at this point than scrap it and start at square one.
I picked Smitherman too. I really like the Sheppard west extension now that it's a given that the Spadina line is going to York U and beyond. I think it will make the Sheppard line a lot more attractive to potential new riders (and hopefully less of a money loser as a result) and will distribute the load more evenly instead of just dumping everyone on the Yonge line, as well as link the line to the Wilson train yard. Another bonus is it wouldn't need much in terms of stations. Yonge-Sheppard is already good to go, Downsview would need some adjustments, and add a station at Bathurst.