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Oh, and the Canadian dollar doesnt have higher buying power compared to all currencies. It has a higher value compared to the US dollar ONLY. All other major currencies are doing much better than the US dollar. It still costs about $2.20 - $2.50 to buy the pound sterling, just like it was several years ago. The euro has pretty much kept on par with the Canadian dollar as well.


You are completely wrong on this. The Canadian dollar has appreciated against all major world currencies over the last couple of years. If you're actually paying $2.20-$2.50 right now to buy your pounds sterling, you're being taken for a ride. Then again, you are in support of companies fleecing the consumers, so I dunno... maybe you'd be more than happy to pay out 10-20% above what the current rate is.

Go to: http://www.xe.com/ and you can check both current and historical exchange rate data on the Canadian dollar.
 
The past two weeks CAD has dropped:
6 US cents
12p
9 Euro cents

has strengthened by 5 rappen/centime against CHF and is buying 7 more yen

has traded sideways against the AUD

and has retreated 4 kiwi cents (this is the only anomaly).
 
From The Globe and Mail


Parity or not, Canadian shoppers are suckers

NEIL REYNOLDS

From Wednesday's Globe and Mail

October 3, 2007 at 6:01 AM EDT

OTTAWA — A decade ago, two U.S. economists published an intriguing Federal Reserve Board study of cross-border consumer prices and concluded that price differences between U.S. and Canadian cities defied rational explanation.

Charles Engel (University of Washington) and John Rogers (Federal Reserve) indeed found that these price differences - equivalent to the cost of shipping goods as much as 75,000 miles (120,700 kilometres) - disproved economic theory. They identified an inexplicable "border effect" that, if it exists, means that Canadians shouldn't hold their breath waiting for exchange-rate parity to reduce the price of goods that sell for much less throughout the United States.

Mr. Engel and Mr. Rogers examined the prices of 14 categories of goods in 14 U.S. cities and 10 Canadian cities, using prices from 1990 and from 1995 (before and after the North American free-trade agreement came into effect). They made the necessary adjustments for fluctuating exchange rates, for transportation costs, for labour costs, for tariffs and taxes. They controlled, in other words, for all the usual barriers to trade that influence retail prices.

"With few impediments to trade, goods should flow freely between countries, cities and provinces," they observed. "[Further], a fundamental proposition of economic theory is that identical goods should sell for the same price." They found, instead, that The Law of One Price did not apply across the U.S.-Canada border. They determined that price differences were "much greater" between a given U.S. city and a given Canadian city than they were between two U.S. cities or two Canadian cities equidistant apart. Using the most conservative assumptions, the divergence was equal to an extra 2,500 miles of transportation costs; using the least conservative assumptions, the divergence was equal to an extra 75,000 miles.

In their review of this mysterious "border effect," another two U.S. economists concluded earlier this year (with the Canadian dollar approaching parity with the U.S. dollar) that the Engel-Rogers conclusions may well have minimized the extent of the inexplicable divergences in U.S.-Canadian prices.

Yuriy Gorodnichenko and Linda Tesar (both from the University of Michigan) describe the phenomenon this way: "The magnitude is surprisingly large - some would say unbelievably large. Taken literally, it is odd that Canada and the U.S. can remain such important bilateral trading partners."

They looked at the prices of identical goods on each side of the border and accounted for all the possible costs, leaving the mysterious "border factor" as the only variable. On the U.S. side, this was the equivalent of the cost of shipping the goods an additional 47 kilometres. On the Canadian side, they found product prices were higher by the cost equivalent of shipping goods an additional 108 million kilometres - or 141 round trips to the moon. Unbelievable, indeed.

What's happening here? In what way can the U.S.-Canada border, all by itself, defy fundamental laws of economics? In its own analysis of this mystery, the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco decided that consumer prices are often set by factors that have little to do with actual cost - factors that operate independently of exchange rates.

In principle, the bank observed, retail prices of imported goods should simply reflect the cost of production multiplied by the appropriate exchange rate: "Suppose you were importing a car from South Korea. In a simple economic model, the U.S. price of the car would be the price expressed in Korean won [the Korean currency] multiplied by the dollar-won exchange rate. If the dollar depreciates against the won, then the cost of the car in dollars would increase."

In practice, however, the bank says, "final goods prices are not very sensitive to the exchange rate [and] consumer prices are much less sensitive to exchange rate prices than import prices." Thus, "national borders play a more important role than physical distances in explaining consumer prices."

(The bank observed that, in a globalized economy, distribution costs can be quite significant. It noted that Mattel buys a Barbie doll from a manufacturer in China for $2 [U.S.], sells it in the United States for $10 - but keeps only $1 for itself. The company spends $7 to get the doll to the store shelf where it will be sold.)

What explains the extraordinary divergence in retail prices between the U.S. and Canada? Put it down, in the end, to a deeply entrenched Canadian willingness to pay more for many goods than they are worth. Put it down to consumer laziness. Especially now, Canadians can pay much less by crossing the border or by ordering direct from the U.S. Most Canadians, though, won't.

Merchants will continue to price to the market - to charge what people will pay. This is why we will keep paying intergalactic prices - whether we have parity or beyond.
 
Obviously if you're saving $200 on an iPod, let alone thousands on a car, it's worth the $30 in gas. That's even more true if you carpool, as many people do.
 
and one reason why prices are higher up her is because of taxes which used to fund our health care system and other essential services and the U.S don't have these luxuries.
 
I agree with Sephardic...

if everyone takes this selfish approach, trying to get the most they can for themselves, a significant chunk of the Canadian economy will disappear. At some point the domino effect may come around and hit the company your nieghbours work for. Who knows, you may get laid off because so many people have taken that same selfish approach.

I dont mind paying more in Canada to keep our country and cities strong and vibrant. Canada is not based on every man for himself thankfully. If we were to move in that direction we can look forward to greater gap between rich and poor and increased presence of ghettos. What is the point of being flush with (cheaper) material goods if the place where you live is a dump (witness Buffalo or Detroit).

There is no guidance in your kingdom
Your wicked walk in Babylon
There is no wisdom to your freedom
The richest man in babylon

Your beggars sleep outside your doorway
Your prophets leave to wonder on
You fall asleep at night with worry
The saddest man in Babylon

The wicked stench of exploitation
Hangs in the air and lingers on
Beneath the praise and admiration
The weakest man in Babylon

There is no hope left in your kingdom
Your servants have burned all their songs
Nobody here remembers freedom
The richest man in Babylon
 
having said all that, at some point there needs to be a world-wide level playing field on prices and currencies... a very difficult proposition looking at the current powers conservative views on this. US with their military Keynesianism and China with their self regulated currency...

Canada's strength in all this is our vast size and resources, though at some point that makes us a target I suppose....
 
and one reason why prices are higher up her is because of taxes which used to fund our health care system and other essential services and the U.S don't have these luxuries.

but aren't comparisons made before the taxes are added on?

and if the product is made in the USA, the production costs don't include our taxes.
 
how can you save money by wasting gas and wear and tear on your vehicle travelling to the U.S to do shopping?

and one reason why prices are higher up her is because of taxes which used to fund our health care system and other essential services and the U.S don't have these luxuries.


That has to be the lamest excuse I’ve heard to shop in Canada. I saved over $20,000 buying my vehicles in the US this year. Why should I pay any more out of my pocket for the exact same product (usually a superior product in the US)? The tax issue is also laughable. You don’t pay at tax on vehicles in most US states if you export but when you bring it over you have to pay GST and PST on the purchase amount so the Canadian government still gets its money. Canadians work hard for their money and by the time taxes are paid there is only so much left to spend. Paying more for the same product to support Canadian retailers is ludicrous especially considering most are owned by US interests. Canadians consumers should be paying fair market value and if retailers are unwilling to lower their prices to reflect the currency change than I will continue to do most of my shopping in the USA.
 
Paying more for the same product to support Canadian retailers is ludicrous especially considering most are owned by US interests.

exactly. some of these jerks force you to buy from their canadian version of their website on purpose, to pay more.
 
People I know who did nicely by buying antiques and 20th century design items in flea markets such as the Sunday St.Lawrence Market - from members of the public who didn't bother to research the significance of what they were selling - and then reselling them on eBay, in U.S. dollars, to collectors ... are mourning the passing of the good old days of the 62 cent buck.
 

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