theman23
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Funny he brought that up. It almost makes you think that Art's motivations in the evolution "debate" (if you can even call it that) are political.
Now I truly understand who you atheists and darwinists really are! You people believe that it was okay for my great-grandparents to die in the Holocaust! How disgusting. Your past article about the Holocaust was just window dressing. We Jews will fight to keep people like you out of the United States!
Yes I have. You know, I respect you as a human being and you have done great work exposing psychics and frauds, but this is a very touchy issue that affects me and family emotionally. Our family business was affected because of Auschwitz because now, our family has nothing. It is gone. Things began to make sense once I saw the movie and I am just appalled. I have learned a lot from Ben Stein, a Jewish brother, who has opened my eyes up a bit.
Now I truly understand who you atheists and darwinists really are! You people believe that it was okay for my great-grandparents to die in the Holocaust! How disgusting. Your past article about the Holocaust was just window dressing. We Jews will fight to keep people like you out of the United States!
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
Funny he brought that up. It almost makes you think that Art's motivations in the evolution "debate" (if you can even call it that) are political.
My house if frequently unlocked when I'm home. I lock it when I am asleep or no one's home. Does this count?
Art, in light of this, are you still writing to defend your original position on the matter, or are you using Michael Moore as a red herring because you are unable to concede that you were wrong?
Why bring it up, unless you see this as a left versus right issue? What does Moore have to do with this documentary?Me political? Surely you jest. I am as apolitical as all the rest of the posters to this thread.
How about offering up your own opinion, instead of copying and pasting a review from a religous website?
Anyone with even the most basic knowledge of modern science knows that this is not true. Considering the almost unprecedented number of recent paradigm shifts in biology, only an ignorant person can think this.Art Vandelay said:Science has been a poweful force for good because it never allowed itself to be co-opted by preconcieved ideas or notions. Only through a process of constant testing and challenge can we hope to find truth. Today, science has far more in common with the midieval church suppressing ideas and individuals who dare question current group think.
How about offering up your own opinion, instead of copying and pasting a review from a religous website?
The review barely even addresses Hipster's post, so I'm not sure why you posted it as a response.
Ben Stein Vs. Sputtering Atheists
By Brent Bozell III
Friday, April 18, 2008
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I confess that when the producers of Ben Stein's new documentary "Expelled" called, offering me a private screening, I was less than excited.
It is a reality of PC liberalism: There is only one credible side to an issue, and any dissent is not only rejected, it is scorned. Global warming. Gay "rights." Abortion "rights." On these and so many other issues there is enlightenment, and then there is the Idiotic Other Side. PC liberalism's power centers are the news media, the entertainment industry and academia, and all are in the clutches of an unmistakable hypocrisy: Theirs is an ideology that preaches the freedom of thought and expression at every opportunity, yet practices absolute intolerance toward dissension.
what does any of this have to do with evolution by means of natural selection?
Evolution is another one of those one-sided debates. We know the concept of Intelligent Design is stifled in academic circles. An entire documentary to state the obvious? You can see my reluctance to view it.
it is stifled because ID does not provide any answers. it is a faith based concept.
I went into the screening bored. I came out of it stunned.
Ben Stein's extraordinary presentation documents how the worlds of science and academia not only crush debate on the origins of life, but also crush the careers of professors who dare to question the Darwinian hypothesis of evolution and natural selection.
natural selection has nothing to do with the origins of life. natural selection explains why there is such diversity of life on earth. ambiogenesis is the study of the origins of life.
Stein asks a simple question: What if the universe began with an intelligent designer, a designer named God?
what if the universe began with with a retarded designer, a designer named billy bob?
He assembles a stable of academics -- experts all -- who dared to question Darwinist assumptions and found themselves "expelled" from intellectual discourse as a result. They include evolutionary biologist Richard Sternberg (sandbagged at the Smithsonian), biology professor Caroline Crocker (drummed out of George Mason University), and astrophysicist Guillermo Gonzalez (blackballed at Iowa State University).
a christian looked up these claims and proved they were false.
That's disturbing enough, but what Stein does next is truly shocking. He allows the principal advocates of Darwinism to speak their minds. These are experts with national reputations, regular welcomed guests on network television and the like. But the public knows them only by their careful seven-second soundbites. Stein engages them in conversation. They speak their minds. They become sputtering ranters, openly championing their sheer hatred of religion.
sure.
PC liberalism has showered accolades on atheist author Richard Dawkins' best-selling book "The God Delusion." But when Stein suggests to Dawkins that he's been critical of the Old Testament God, Dawkins protests -- not that Stein is wrong, but that he's being too mild. He then reads from this jaw-dropping paragraph of his book: continued...
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."
anyone who has read the bible will know this to be factual.
Dawkins has a website. Its slogan is "A clear-thinking oasis."
It's understood that God had nothing to do with the origins of life on Earth. What, then, is the alternate explanation? Stein asks these experts, and their very serious answers are priceless. One theorizes that life began somehow on the backs of crystals. Another states electric sparks from a lightning storm created organic matter (out of nothing). Another declares that life was brought to Earth by aliens. Anything but God.
again, ambiogenesis is not natural selection.
The most controversial part of the film follows Stein to the Dachau concentration camp, underlining how Darwin's theories of natural selection led to the eugenics movement, embraced by Adolf Hitler. If there is no God, but only a planetary lab waiting for scientists to perfect the human race, where can Darwinism lead? Stein insists that he isn't accusing today's Darwinists of Nazism. He points out, however, that Hitler's mad science was inspired by Darwinism.
ethnic cleansing is not NATURAL selection. ethnic cleansing is ARTIFICIAL selection. artificial selection has been going on for thousands of years. most of our supermarket produce is a byproduct of artificial selection. yes, bananna growers are nazi's .
Now that the film is complete, the evolutionist prophets featured in the film are on the warpath inveighing against it, and the alleged idiots who would lower themselves to watching it. Richard Dawkins laments how the film will solicit "cheap laughs that could only be raised in an audience of scientific ignoramuses." Minnesota professor and blogger P.Z. Myers predicts the movie is "going to appeal strongly to the religious, the paranoid, the conspiracy theorists, and the ignorant ---- which means they're going to draw in about 90 percent of the American market." Myers and Dawkins now both complain they were "duped" into appearing in the movie (for pay).
Everyone should take the opportunity to see "Expelled" -- if nothing else, as a bracing antidote to the atheism-friendly culture of PC liberalism. But it's far more than that. It's a spotlight on the arrogance of this movement and its leaders, a spotlight on the choking intolerance of academia, and a spotlight on the ignorance of so many who say so much, yet know so very little.
atheism does not have leaders. atheism is not a religion. atheism is a disbelief in god(s). even christians were called atheists by romans because they did not believe in the roman gods. atheism is a term to describe those who disbelieve in god, much like nonracist is a term to describe those who aren't racist.