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44th Canadian Federal Election

My 18 y/o daughter will be voting for the first time. We were in the car discussing the election process, and she quickly twigged onto the fact that in our riding, Toronto Centre a vote for anyone but the Liberal is wasted, and how across Canada most votes are wasted or unrepresented. A Liberal in Calgary might as well skip the election. So, I told her to vote anyway, and vote for whoever she thinks supports her POV so that at least the justification for proportional representation or ranked ballots can be made.
 
My 18 y/o daughter will be voting for the first time. We were in the car discussing the election process, and she quickly twigged onto the fact that in our riding, Toronto Centre a vote for anyone but the Liberal is wasted, and how across Canada most votes are wasted or unrepresented. A Liberal in Calgary might as well skip the election. So, I told her to vote anyway, and vote for whoever she thinks supports her POV so that at least the justification for proportional representation or ranked ballots can be made.
I remember feeling the same way about my first time voting, in St Pauls riding. I still felt a strong duty to vote anyway, and have ever since.

I have noticed though that the Zoomer generation seems to be particularly averse to being 'duped' by institutional authorities and traditional ways of being, possibly as result of growing up with the internet and developing a strong BS filter. It makes me wonder if Zoomers will be the most voter apathetic generation we will see in a long time thanks to our FPTP electoral system and perceived ineffectiveness of our political leaders/parties. Though I am sure people might have said the same things of Millennials back when we were the same age demographic.
 
My 18 y/o daughter will be voting for the first time. We were in the car discussing the election process, and she quickly twigged onto the fact that in our riding, Toronto Centre a vote for anyone but the Liberal is wasted, and how across Canada most votes are wasted or unrepresented. A Liberal in Calgary might as well skip the election. So, I told her to vote anyway, and vote for whoever she thinks supports her POV so that at least the justification for proportional representation or ranked ballots can be made.

To be fair, Annamie Paul has ZERO chance of winning Toronto Centre. The NDP might and I predict it will Liberals in first, NDP in second and Conservatives in Third and Green in 4th.

This is a left leaning stronghold where the Liberals will take it but the NDP have a chance if they make a good case.

I do think Annamie made a fatal mistake running in Toronto Center, one that will cost her the leadership position after the election. If she does not win a seat, there is no way she can remain leader if someone takes a majority. If there is a minority government, the Greens may keep her on hand in the even another snap election is called.
 
Updated Seat Projection from 338.

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I remember feeling the same way about my first time voting, in St Pauls riding. I still felt a strong duty to vote anyway, and have ever since.

I have noticed though that the Zoomer generation seems to be particularly averse to being 'duped' by institutional authorities and traditional ways of being, possibly as result of growing up with the internet and developing a strong BS filter. It makes me wonder if Zoomers will be the most voter apathetic generation we will see in a long time thanks to our FPTP electoral system and perceived ineffectiveness of our political leaders/parties. Though I am sure people might have said the same things of Millennials back when we were the same age demographic.

I see little evidence that those who get all of their knowledge from the Internet have a "strong BS filter".
 
No but 338 is usually on the money (more or less). I would trust their opinion.
But the polls are still changing. Those numbers are based on how things are polling currently and that almost certainly will change.

A vote for the NDP is a wasted vote.
No offence but idk how you can say a vote for the NDP is a wasted vote while simultaneously voting green lol. The idea that an NDP vote is a waste is part of the reason we're in this predicament right now. If everyone who wanted to vote NDP just voted NDP without worrying about things like vote splitting, they may win, or at least make big enough gains to be considered more seriously by voters in the future.

Strategic voting goes against the core ideals of our democratic system in my opinion. Vote for whoever aligns with your viewpoint most regardless of what the outcome may be. If you want to vote NDP vote NDP, if you want to vote PPC I dont understand why but vote PPC. That's what's best for our political system imo
 
I wonder how many ridings have not yet nominated a candidate?

I noticed in Scarborough Southwest for example that there is no identified candidate for the CPC. It leads me to wonder if the lack of candidates this late in the game may hurt the parties.

With less than a month to go before the election, time is running out for candidates to make a name for themselves.
 
I really dislike the whole “wasted vote” sentiment. Just because the person you want didn’t win, your vote isn’t wasted. That’s how our system works. Otherwise, we would all vote for whomever the media projects as the winner just so our vote “counts”. How is that helpful?
 
I really dislike the whole “wasted vote” sentiment. Just because the person you want didn’t win, your vote isn’t wasted. That’s how our system works. Otherwise, we would all vote for whomever the media projects as the winner just so our vote “counts”. How is that helpful?

Personally I vote NDP in Scarborough Southwest knowing full well there is only a slim chance they will win. Voting is the cornerstone of our government and by doing so, you can truly have a say in what goes on.

I subscribe to the philosophy that if you do not vote, you have no right to whine about how bad the government is. If you vote for the party of your choosing and they do not get in, that is a different story.
 
Canada’s 43rd federal election had the following closest results. From link. Dated October 22, 2019.

1. Yukon — 72 votes — Liberal candidate Larry Bagnell appeared poised to retain his seat following a spirited fight from Conservative candidate Jonas Smith. This was by far the closest race across Canada, judged by the difference in votes between the two frontrunners, but like all the other ridings on this list, the results do not appear close enough to trigger an official recount. That happens if two candidates’ final totals are separated by 0.1 per cent or fewer of all the votes cast. In Yukon this time, the threshold is about 20 votes.​
2. Richmond Hill — 112 votes — This Toronto riding stayed red on Monday as Liberal incumbent Majid Jowhari narrowly defeated Conservative candidate Costas Menegakis, who represented the area from 2011 to 2015. One could argue the upstart People’s Party of Canada hurt the Tories’ chances by capturing 507 votes, though the NDP and Greens likely did the same for the Liberals by drawing 4,425 and 1,695 votes respectively.​
3. Quebec — 215 votes — Liberal cabinet minister Jean-Yves Duclos managed to hold onto his Quebec City seat in the face of a strong challenge from Bloc Quebecois candidate Christiane Gagnon. The Liberals, Conservatives and New Democrats all suffered in Quebec as the Bloc surged to new relevance on Monday, though none was hurt worse than the NDP.​
4. Kitchener-Conestoga — 273 votes — Confusion reigned Tuesday as Elections Canada’s preliminary numbers showed Liberal candidate Tim Louis with a narrow lead over Conservative incumbent Harold Albrecht but five polls remained unreported more than 12 hours after polls had closed. Elections Canada later blamed “human error” for the delay, adding once they were reported, the five polls did not change the result.​
5. Hochelaga — 319 votes — Liberal candidate Soraya Martinez-Ferrada squeaked out a win over Bloc candidate Simon Marchand in this central Montreal riding. The New Democrats had held the seat since 2011 but placed a distant third this time around as the NDP saw itself all but swept out of Quebec eight years after the “orange wave” saw it become the official Opposition.​
6. Port Moody-Coquitlam — 333 votes — This B.C. riding flipped from orange to blue on Monday as Conservative candidate Nelly Shin narrowly edged NDP candidate Bonita Zarrillo, who was hoping to succeed NDP MP Fin Donnelly after he opted not to seek re-election. Liberal candidate Sara Badiei followed close behind, suggesting Shin was able to capitalize on a vote split on the left.​
7. Coquitlam-Port Coquitlam — 339 votes — Liberal incumbent Ron McKinnon held onto his seat in B.C. Lower Mainland in the face of a stiff challenge from Conservative candidate Nicholas Insley. As in Richmond Hill, the People’s Party of Canada had enough votes to cover the spread, though the NDP and Greens both had better results than the right-wing PPC.​
8. Miramichi-Grand Lake — 414 votes — Four years after sweeping the province, the Liberals took a hit in New Brunswick by losing three of 10 seats to the Conservatives and one to the Greens. But despite a tough fight from Conservative candidate Peggy McLean, Liberal incumbent Pat Finnigan was able to hold onto his riding for his party.​
9. Cumberland-Colchester — 453 votes — It might have seemed that the door was open for former Conservative MP Scott Armstrong to retake this riding after longtime MP Bill Casey decided not to seek re-election for the Liberals. Instead, Lenore Zann was able to keep the riding red, though the Liberals did suffer defeats elsewhere in the province after sweeping it in 2015.​
10. Chicoutimi-Le Fjord — 614 votes — Former Quebec hockey coach Richard Martel beat a challenge from Bloc candidate Valerie Tremblay, who was forced to apologize during the election campaign for comments she made about Islam on Twitter. The Conservatives ceded two seats to the Bloc in Quebec while the Liberals lost six and the NDP 14.​
 
It makes me wonder if Zoomers will be the most voter apathetic generation we will see in a long time

Voter turnout stats in Canada and the US say otherwise. Gen Y and Z both vote at higher rates than previous generations before them at the same age.
 

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