Jonny5
Senior Member
The "what ifs" here for Saunders not having run are really interesting.
It would probably be a Chow vs. Bailao race with either one possibly winning.
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2023 Toronto Mayoral by-election
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The "what ifs" here for Saunders not having run are really interesting.
It would probably be a Chow vs. Bailao race with either one possibly winning.
Andy_in_Toronto
Active Member
Overall the probability of Chow winning did practically not change:
Update of the two polls above will be added today!
Update of the two polls above will be added today!
JGHali
Active Member
I don’t really believe in this Bailao bump. Her campaign has been singularly bland and uninspiring and who’s really paying attention re endorsements?
PL1
Active Member
Getting the endorsement of Tory and The Toronto Star may influence some people.
christiesplits
Senior Member
A few thoughts:
1. If Ford kept his ego in check, an endorsement by him for Bailao, the lesser of two evils versus Chow, over his preferred candidate Saunders, may have been enough to consolidate the anti-Chow vote.
2. At this point, I suspect Chow will have enough steam to win based on the enthusiasm of her base and her probable big margins in advance voting.
3. There will be significant party machine “Get Out The Vote” operations tomorrow. My NDP-affiliated council staffer friend is working on Chow’s campaign 9 to 9 tomorrow, and I expect Liberals will be mostly working for Bailao, and Conservatives will pull the vote for Saunders.
4. Does Gong get more votes than Bradford? That’s the big question.
adma
Superstar
Re the bump: "bland works"--it's how Eggleton won vs Sewell in '80. And better "bland and uninspiring" as an antidote to vewwy vewwy scawwy opponents.
But re bland *not* working: it's why she's still way behind Chow.
Pacer
New Member
I find personally that Bailao is the continuity candidate, and there's no real difference between her and Tory's platform, besides Tory not being on the ticket.
Bailao was canvassing for support for her mayoral bid with Bonnie Crombie at the Liberal convention not too long ago. And this campaign from Bailao is what I'm expecting from Crombie, unfortunately.
John_Dee
Active Member
I don't know that I'd say bland isn't working here; Chow's from the left, but she's still pretty mainstream. The right's efforts to paint her as a dangerous radical appear to be backfiring because she's manifestly not that. Chances are - if she wins - that they'll continue to do so no matter how timid or middle-of-the-road her administration actually is. Idiotically enough.
In the meantime, I'm surprised that practically none of the more credible up-and-comers have dropped out to endorse one of the leads. That way they might have some influence on the election, and possibly a more coveted role in the upcoming administration. With this many candidates, you'd figure there'd be at least a few whose common sense would overcome their egos.
TonyV
Senior Member
I love 4adma
Superstar
Speaking of Gong,, I was joking about the likelihood being something straight out of a BlahTO parody post--but he did, he really did have a Pride parade float and entourage.
He's truly the Monkey Christ of this election race, in the "no publicity is bad publicity" worst way possible (i.e. in the sense of travellers with no yen otherwise for well-thought-out "cultural tourism" going on a Monkey Christ pilgrimage--I'm scared that Gong's going to get *that* kind of duckface-selfie idiot vote).
Other Pride observations: Olivia (of course), Anacanapanacanailão, Matlow and Bradapalooza all had entourages, a Mitzie entourage was mysteriously AWOL (secret turmoil in that camp?), you'd probably imagine Furey to picture himself being "above" pandering to Pride, and as for Saunders, maybe the *real* eleventh-hour tragedy is how even if he *did* seek to attend, he would have been a toxic presence not on account of his politics, but because of the perception that he was asleep at the wheel when the whole Bruce McArthur thing was happening...
He's truly the Monkey Christ of this election race, in the "no publicity is bad publicity" worst way possible (i.e. in the sense of travellers with no yen otherwise for well-thought-out "cultural tourism" going on a Monkey Christ pilgrimage--I'm scared that Gong's going to get *that* kind of duckface-selfie idiot vote).
Other Pride observations: Olivia (of course), Anacanapanacanailão, Matlow and Bradapalooza all had entourages, a Mitzie entourage was mysteriously AWOL (secret turmoil in that camp?), you'd probably imagine Furey to picture himself being "above" pandering to Pride, and as for Saunders, maybe the *real* eleventh-hour tragedy is how even if he *did* seek to attend, he would have been a toxic presence not on account of his politics, but because of the perception that he was asleep at the wheel when the whole Bruce McArthur thing was happening...
smably
Senior Member
I also noted the lack of Saunders in the parade. Really a no-win situation for him, and rightly so. Olivia looked like she was having the time of her life, lots of hugs and photos and good vibes.
Rufus8
Active Member
I'm still with Matlow. Chow is my nightmare candidate, even more so than Saunders, there is literally nothing there with her. No substance. Never been in power, never managed multi-billion dollar budgets, never negoitiated with unions, out of city hall for years. I would like to know who set her up. Tory's endorsement 5 days to the election infuriated me, he had to wait til 129k Torontonians voted before he spoke up - what the hell sort of dick move is that? Why not endorse her straight away? If Chow wins I look forward to the end of homelessness in Toronto - LOL!
JGHali
Active Member
Matlow has never been in power or managed multi-billion dollar budgets. 
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Maybe Bailão was unsure she wanted it. Has anyone ever sought the endorsement of a disgraced former mayor who resigned after sexually pursuing young women (it won't be just the one) on staff?
Is anyone asking for ex-Governor Cuomo's endorsement?
picard102
Senior Member
As opposed to who else in the race that hasn't been bland and uninspiring?