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2023 Toronto Mayoral by-election

Who gets your vote for Mayor of Toronto?

  • Ana Bailao

    Votes: 18 16.4%

  • Brad Bradford

    Votes: 3 2.7%

  • Olivia Chow

    Votes: 58 52.7%

  • Mitzie Hunter

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Josh Matlow

    Votes: 20 18.2%

  • Mark Saunders

    Votes: 4 3.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • Total voters
    110
  • Poll closed .
If our government is monitoring/investigating a private citizen because she

1. used to be a politician 8 years ago
2. holds normal, common left-wing views
3. was born near China

then that is a gross misuse of resources and probably racist too.

Of course, they probably aren't doing this and that poster just pulled it out of their ass.
 
adma said:
But also re Overton window-shifting--well, if we have the Liberals as "centre" and NDP "far left", then shouldn't the Conservatives be correspondingly "far right"? Leaving aside the hair-splitting semantics, I'm just addressing relative positioning here. Of course, those responsible for the window-shifting would rather that Conservative be "centre" and Liberal be "moderate left" so as to fulfil the "NDP = far left" framework.

And speaking of "far"-anything and fringiness: let's not forget this statement on Fresco's part...

2023 Toronto Mayoral by-election

It's not unfortunate that John Tory is tied to candidates like Brad Bradford and Ana Bailao. He worked closely with both on council. All three are more middle of the road type of politicians. I could say that if Olivia Chow wins, it will be unfortunate that she will work closely with Josh...
urbantoronto.ca urbantoronto.ca

Advocates for *that* are a fungus on all political forums.
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Please post a direct link to where I stated this.

I'll help you out. I never made this post.
You are completely pulling this one out of your rear-end.

I made a screenshot of it so you cant delete your idiotic claim 😃
 
Fresco said:
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Please post a direct link to where I stated this.

I'll help you out. I never made this post.
You are completely pulling this one out of your rear-end.

I made a screenshot of it so you cant delete your idiotic claim 😃
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Ah, but it's because the "display post" is different from the post I linked to (for whatever reason--must be a glitch in the system). And besides, that post is benign.

However, if you click onto that display post, (and maybe I was overexpecting others to do so), you'll find the *real* post I was referring to: to presently cut-and-paste *that*...

Richard White said:
True but Tory was the PC leader prior to being Mayor.

Things change but political views don't. Once a Conservative, always a Conservative
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Err, not always true.
I've gone from being strong conservative to now completely socially liberal, but fiscally still conservative.

What this country needs is a Libertarian party that can compete with our big 3 parties
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Uh...really? Other than maybe Neil Reynolds in the 1982 Leeds-Grenville byelection, the Libertarians have *always* been electorally fringe, nationally, provincially. And as per my Neil Reynolds point, their chance was 4 decades ago. They're a relic of the Anchorman 2 or Knoxville World's Fair era. At this point, Libertarians are the political equivalent of a Herb Tarlek or Shadoe Stevens vulgarian.

Of course, Libertarianism *did* wind up surviving by way of electronic social media from the Usenet era onward--but in a way that highlighted their inherent forum-hijacking and forum-killing unpleasantness.

And for you to be blowing the horn for a "Libertarian party that can compete with out big 3 parties" suggests that you've been doing something like that foot-in-the-door pitch in all manner of political forums for, let's say, some time now.

As I said...fungus.
 
adma said:
And for you to be blowing the horn for a "Libertarian party that can compete with out big 3 parties" suggests that you've been doing something like that foot-in-the-door pitch in all manner of political forums for, let's say, some time now.

As I said...fungus.
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I have been doing something like foot-in-the-door pitch in all manner of political forums??
What the hell does this even mean?? 😂

And who (or what) is a fungus??
 
Islington Express Bus said:
If our government is monitoring/investigating a private citizen because she

1. used to be a politician 8 years ago
2. holds normal, common left-wing views
3. was born near China

then that is a gross misuse of resources and probably racist too.

Of course, they probably aren't doing this and that poster just pulled it out of their ass.
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Our government watches all politicians, but after Chinese election interference it only makes sense they will watch politicians of Chinese descent a bit more.

They were (or still are) monitoring Han Dong: https://globalnews.ca/news/9504291/...2019-election-candidate-chinese-interference/

Also the Chinese government employs blackmail, bribery and sexual seduction, with the country even enlisting the Bank of China in its foreign-influence activities so they can target corporate executives, academics and vulnerable Chinese Canadians:


Are you saying CSIS is racist for monitoring Chinese-Canadians??
 
GenerationW said:
I'd bet a few shekels that the goal of his sudden sign invasion is to cut into Chow's support.
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You mean, like, paid off by one of the other major campaigns? Some kind of Ford/Kouvalis-esque dirty tricks? Baiting low-info Chinese voters? Hmmmm...

(Which also raises a possibility that turns the race-baiting Chow-conspiracy talk on its head: that said Chinese forces might *not* want Chow as Mayor, simply because Western-style inner-city "socialism" isn't its bag)
 
adma said:
You mean, like, paid off by one of the other major campaigns? Some kind of Ford/Kouvalis-esque dirty tricks? Baiting low-info Chinese voters? Hmmmm...

(Which also raises a possibility that turns the race-baiting Chow-conspiracy talk on its head: that said Chinese forces might *not* want Chow as Mayor, simply because Western-style inner-city "socialism" isn't its bag)
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That's possible. Finishing a solid second in this election could be a springboard to winning in 2026, even if Chow runs again.
 
GenerationW said:
That's possible. Finishing a solid second in this election could be a springboard to winning in 2026, even if Chow runs again.
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Of course, I'm not thinking of *Gong* with his, uh, chequered background as that solid-second prospect--rather that his campaign is serving as a dark-money/dirty-tricks secret-weapon "decoy". Particularly if any of the other candidates have fears that the "viable" candidate with the Asian surname is going to vacuum up the Asian votes, even if she doesn't represent, er, "Asiancourt" values. So, have this nonentity named Gong undermine Chow, and one of the rest might come up the middle...
 
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