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2023 Toronto Mayoral by-election
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zang
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Not sure if you are aware, but Olivia Chow was born in British Hong Kong. She's a born and bred citizen of the commonwealth. Not China.
But don't let me interrupt your ignorance.
zang
Senior Member
I just need to go back to this, because I find it absolutely hilarious when conservatives (I guessed right, didn't I? Probably a Maxime fan, judging by the amount of ignorance on display) complain about solar panels.
Solar panels are the absolute epitome (yes, that's also an English word) of self-reliance; a supposed cornerstone of fiscal conservative politics.
Just in case you weren't aware of that. Also, they did it 17 years ago, long before it was popular.
Again, self reliance = bad when done by "lefties" but good when done by conservatives?
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adma
Superstar
If any current campaign might raise suspicions about Chinese shenanigans afoot, it's that of Gong, not that of Chow.
Rufus8
Active Member
not sure if you are aware but China regards HK as it's territory even tho it was only handed back in 1997. No ignorance here comrade. Just toronto born, bred and proud.
Rufus8
Active Member
what was wrong with living in a co-op? oh right it didn't fit the narrative st jack was peddling. You ought to know that MP and councillors are PAID for the work they do - expenses, travel, pensions. They do NOT do it out of the kindness of their hearts. again with the nonsense politcal shade. Lefties? Conservatives? there is wrong with solar panels - there is a LOT wrong with peddling a false narrative to get elected. P.S wrong about maxime but keep stabbing in the dark zang... it suits you
Rufus8
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Rufus8
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since some posters have not realized there is some question about Chinese government jockeying for influence in Canada, let me say that again the CHINESE government, not the Peruvian government, not the Swedish goverment the CHINESE government. That's why when you see campaign signs in languages other than English and French it is a sign of EXCLUSION, not inclusion. Consider the source, a common English saying, is very apt for where we are. We need to be aware of online conversations that want to divert to other issues or indeed want to devalue the rights of Canadians to have/express opinions other than their own. I do NOT see Chow as a competent capable innovative administrator and in fact am very suspicious of her motives. I didn't see Trump as a well balance, stable leader and yet he was elected! So there you go!
adma
Superstar
Key word: "heard". That is, you're probably the sort who's consumed very little of the kind of literature and media that'd use words like "screed", but have done a lot of amateur tabloid-style "reesurch" instead, because at least it speaks "plain English" to folks like you without having to resort to fancy words like "screed"...
JGHali
Active Member
They lived in a co-op at Jarvis and Shuter. And were accused of availing of “subsidized housing” by people pushing, oh, your narrative. Of course they actually paid market rent in a co-op. Which is the point. And god forbid they decide to buy a house in their 40s instead. And many/most HKers who moved away did so to avoid being under the thumb of the PRC - you think it’s a coincidence that much of that emigration occurred after June 1989?
zang
Senior Member
And? Have you ever met anyone from British Hong Kong or Taiwan? They’ll take great offence to being identified as being from the PRC. Russia still believes Alaska is theirs, BTW. So should everyone from Alaska should be treated with the same suspicions?
Your implication that Chow is somehow under Chinese influence is blatantly ridiculous and comes with zero evidence but the fact that she was born in a country that China claimed to be theirs and that she’s of Asian decent.
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zang
Senior Member
Nothing's wrong with living in a co-op, especially when the Hazelburn Co-op (the one they lived in) is mixed-income and income-geared. When Jack got on council, they bumped up their rent payments to match their combined income, long before pundits found out they were living in a co-op. Because, y'know, they were being responsible and honest.
But why let a 33-year old false narrative die, huh?
Sure, they get paid for it. But does that make the motivations of all politicians suspect, or only those who are left-leaning or of Asian decent?
And for the record, some people actually do it out of a feeling of duty towards their community and country, regardless of their political leaning.
Your implication it's only for the money quickly falls apart when you account for the millionaires like John Tory who leave very high paying jobs to run for seats. But I digress.
What’s the narrative there then? Is it “be self-reliant like us?” Or is it “You too can cut your costs by getting solar panels?” The horror!
They were also *in* parliament already and it wasn't anywhere near an election period. So were they trying win their seats harder?
You don’t even have a valid argument here. You’re just against it because of who did it.
Sorry, your posts just bear the trademark grievance politics, dogwhistle racism and ignorance of a PPC voter. My bad.
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adma
Superstar
It might be a bigger tent than that, if "Anthony Furey" voter is shaping up to be a bigger tent than "PPC voter" (and potentially even a 2nd place force, even if a *very* distant 2nd)
zang
Senior Member
Well, the Conservative party in general has been pushing further and further into PPC territory...
Besides, a Mainstreet poll will come out the day before the election declaring Bailão less than 3 points from Chow, so that when Ana inevitably loses, she can be the rightful runner up.
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We speak English in Canada too. I have read it and heard it multiple times over the course of my lifetime. But normally when I am unfamiliar with a word, I look it up rather than make a thinly veiled racist remark about it.