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    Toronto Ontario Line 3 | ?m | ?s

    I strongly suspect that picture is inaccurate and needs to be republished or something. It shows the line going directly over Strange St and through the Fontbonne Ministries building. That doesn't match this picture, which looks significantly more in line with what Metrolinx said in their blog...
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    This was literally the reason why the RLS alignment changed from Pape to Carlaw in the first place.
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    Steve Munro got them directly from the City. https://stevemunro.ca/2018/04/29/relief-line-south-station-and-alignment-plans/
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    You don't get it right now, and that's okay. I don't have any further comments on your post to me. Let's come back to this conversation in 2030.
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    Helps to remember that Relief Line South, in and of itself, wasn't going to solve a lot of problems beyond fractionally reducing transfer congestion at Bloor/Yonge. Nobody would've ever proposed building subway stations at Carlaw/Queen or King/Sumach on their own merits, and the number of...
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    Ah yes. I was looking at the 2014 numbers published on the TTC web site, when the order was Bloor/Yonge, St. George, Union, Sheppard. The updated 2018 numbers show that Sheppard is now tied(ish) for 5th place with Kennedy. It doesn't change my point though -- 80,000 people a day is still very...
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    Huh? I promise you won't be able to find a reliable quote from city officials or a TTC staffer for "by 2028". Where in the world did you get that number from.... Keesmaat's mayoral election platform? She's basically the only insider who promised to find a way to get it done that quickly. You...
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    Toronto Ontario Line 3 | ?m | ?s

    You really ought to know by now that TTC subway stations don't create densification on their own. Runnymede, Jane, Royal York, Ossington, Coxwell, Lansdowne, Pape, Woodbine, Dupont... the list goes on and on. Serving already-extant needs has a lot of validity on its own -- and the...
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    Relief Line South wasn't far enough along by the time it was cancelled for construction to have begun by now. They were only 10% finished the design in early 2019, and COVID would've happened regardless.
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    Regarding SSE, there isn't really an overground route available that makes a lot of sense. I know it's tempting to say "use the existing Scarborough RT route!", and in years gone by I thought the same. But we should all be able to agree that the existing RT route has been an absolute failure in...
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    Just occurred to me that the "Early works" component Metrolinx & IO have been talking about could mean that some of the necessary work will be finished and/or on its way long before mid-2024. If they are planning to build the bridges in Leslieville, over the Don River etc. before then, that may...
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    Toronto Ontario Line 3 | ?m | ?s

    I know nobody ever believed that OL would happen on the schedule Ford insisted.... and it's completely fair to expect schedules to slip by a year given all the direct & indirect effects of COVID. But.... not starting construction on the eastern half of the line before mid-2024 is really...
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    Not sure that the needs of the eastern portal would influence the overall decision too much. They could still do single-bore but mine the second eastern portal separately.
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    Try getting that through to angry Leslievillians who still want their stations underground, even though the geotechnical situation would've resulted in this monstrosity that was originally proposed at Gerrard. I've circled the four large escalators one would have to take to get from track level...
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    Theoretically, Ontario Line will have the benefit of being able to do some in-depth testing pretty early on, given that the MSF will be most closely connected with two outdoors stations that should be much faster to build than just about any other station on the network. Also I don't think...
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    That'd be brilliant for the Overlea station especially, given how bitter the winter winds can be over there, and the station itself is going to be somewhat distant from most of the big Thorncliffe apartment buildings. But you know as well as I do that Metrolinx and TTC have never placed an...
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    The platform doors have to stay in order for the design to work. The Metrolinx people have been citing Copenhagen, where PSDs are a major element of meeting a reliable 120 second headway time. It's going to be a very small part of the overall expense of building some of these stations. That...
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    Toronto Ontario Line 3 | ?m | ?s

    Platform edge doors are part of the Initial Business Case, sure, but they won't be officially committed to until after the RFQ process is completed next year.
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    Let's also not forget that Metrolinx already has an expansion plan for Exhibition GO from 2018 that is more or less ready to go. This design allocates space for an additional north-side track for "future use", but there probably isn't enough space for that, two OL tracks, an OL platform, and...
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    Toronto Ontario Line 3 | ?m | ?s

    The Queen streetcar will stay. A service increase is likely for the Carlton streetcar. Not long before the Ontario Line reset, the city did say that they would look at increasing service east of Gerrard/Carlaw. There's definitely something to the idea of people taking a streetcar to the OL on...

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