SaugeenJunction
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Miway won’t be involved in any of the LRT operations, it’s entirely with with P3 consortium for the Hurontario LRT. I hope that this enables better decision-making unburdened by public sector malaise.
JJTheJetPln
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Gonna have to wait for the snow to melt and the winds to calm down before I can get more aerial shots, but there are now lane markings on the newly paved section closest to Hurontario / Steeles. I haven't gone too far back to investigate, but it seems that with the new lane markings, they may be one step closer to shifting traffic over for construction of the guideway from Ray Lawson / Hurontario to the Hurontario/Steeles section.
This may also coincide with why they haven't opened the new section over the 407 yet. I believe what they want to do is shift over traffic all at once to the new surface so they have less vehicles interrupting the work in the guideway corridor. The weather doesn't look very forgiving this week so it may be next spring until I'm able to get better photos. Winds are a little too high for my comfort.
This may also coincide with why they haven't opened the new section over the 407 yet. I believe what they want to do is shift over traffic all at once to the new surface so they have less vehicles interrupting the work in the guideway corridor. The weather doesn't look very forgiving this week so it may be next spring until I'm able to get better photos. Winds are a little too high for my comfort.
JJTheJetPln
Active Member
Update #2 since I was coming from York MIlls back to Brampton.
1. The new NB lanes over the 407 are open.
2. .Topflight/Hurontario is completed.
3. Guideways from Topflight/Hurontario NB/SB to the 407 intersection have been dug up. Intersections remain untouched until they're ready for it.
4. From what I can see, around 90% of the new NB lanes from 407 / Hurontario up to Steeles / Hurontario have been paved over with lane markings added. SB hasn't been touched, and I'm beginning to wonder if it's just an additional lane as opposed to another two to three lanes.
5. Traction power substation near the superior court has been moved into place.
That's all for now. I'm hoping the snow melts sometime soon so I can get better photos of everything.
Edit #1:
Track rework from January 7th to February 11th for the intersection of Hurontario / Prologis & Hurontario / Annagem.
Vehicles needing to get to Kateson will have to take Capston to Kateson. Vehicles needing to go to Edwards will need to use World to Edwards.
1. The new NB lanes over the 407 are open.
2. .Topflight/Hurontario is completed.
3. Guideways from Topflight/Hurontario NB/SB to the 407 intersection have been dug up. Intersections remain untouched until they're ready for it.
4. From what I can see, around 90% of the new NB lanes from 407 / Hurontario up to Steeles / Hurontario have been paved over with lane markings added. SB hasn't been touched, and I'm beginning to wonder if it's just an additional lane as opposed to another two to three lanes.
5. Traction power substation near the superior court has been moved into place.
That's all for now. I'm hoping the snow melts sometime soon so I can get better photos of everything.
Edit #1:
Track rework from January 7th to February 11th for the intersection of Hurontario / Prologis & Hurontario / Annagem.
Vehicles needing to get to Kateson will have to take Capston to Kateson. Vehicles needing to go to Edwards will need to use World to Edwards.
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Tim MacDonald
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Some accidental captures on one of my Cooksville area flights yesterday.
Also, it sounds like one of those Blue power station thingys will be installed tomorrow night and into Tuesday across from Port Credit Go station on the east side, north of the railway tracks. As I was leaving work yesterday morning someone was stuffing a flyer in the mailbox.
Also, it sounds like one of those Blue power station thingys will be installed tomorrow night and into Tuesday across from Port Credit Go station on the east side, north of the railway tracks. As I was leaving work yesterday morning someone was stuffing a flyer in the mailbox.
Tim MacDonald
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Here is the location. I didn't realize that I captured the base on my December 21st photo posted a few pages back.
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duffo
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It's going to be verrrrry interesting to see how this line operates compared to the Finch LRT, since they are nearly identical in design and the major X-factor is who is operating the line (TTC vs. private operator Transdev)
Dan416
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A huge difference is stop spacing, which is on average every 600-650 m on Finch W, and every 850 m on Hurontario. So we'll see how big a difference that makes....in a couple year lol.
| Line | Approx. Length | Stops | Average Stop Spacing |
|---|---|---|---|
| 5 Eglinton | ~19 km | 25 | ~500–850 m* |
| 6 Finch West | ~10.3 km | 18 | ~600–650 m |
| 10 Hurontario | ~18 km | 19 | ~850 m |
PL1
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One comment: an average (assuming a mean) should not be expressed as a range
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lastcommodore
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Thankfully, we actually invented a tool to solve this problem that averages shouldn't be ranges but also may not convey some useful information. This is called standard deviation. I've taken the liberty (aka i'm procrastinating) to measure and calculate it.
| Line | Length (km) | Stops | Average Stop Spacing (stdev), (m) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 6 Finch West | 10.4 | 18 | 612 (219) |
| 6 FW, 08, FW to HC [1] | 10.4 | 15 | 743 (247) |
| 5 EC, Phase 1 | 18.9 | 25 | 787 (278) |
| 5 EC, Phase 1 West [2] | 12.6 | 15 | 897 (225) |
| 5 EC, East [2] | 6.3 | 11 | 633 (283) |
| 10 Hurontario | 18.3 | 19 | 1015 (463) |
Some takeaways, though probably none of them are revolutionary or new:
- 10 Hurontario has by far the largest average stop spacing. It exceeds even 5 EC's underground segments.
- It probably doesn't feel like that too much, but the distance is probably skewed by the three highways it passes through with no stops. Derry -> Ray Lawson is 1971m and is by far the largest gap btwn. stations among 5,6, and 10.
- I will have to agree that stop spacing will be a HUGE factor in this. Combined with sane transit priority and operating, I suspect 10 is possible of exceeding 2.5x 6FW current speeds. 6FW simply cannot be operated as fast as 10 can due to the massive stop spacing here. *It will remain to be seen the speed restriction on the guideway from the south. I suspect it may not be pretty, but AFAIK we do not know the turn radius of it.
- Hurontario stop spacing seems to vary more than the others, primarily due to some oddly short distances (RL -> CC 461m, CC -> BG 572m) and incredibly long distances due to highways (Mineola -> NS 1280m, MCC -> Eglinton 1762m, Britannia -> Courtney 1612m, Derry -> Ray Lawson 1971m) but overall the stop spacing is much longer than 5 and 6.
[1] The 2008 proposal of 6 FW from Finch West (then Keele) to Humber College (then Humber College Blvd). Alexdon to Finch is removed, as Humber College. Effectively, modern 6FW with stops Tobermory, Pearldale, and Stevenson have been removed.
[2] I am splitting West vs. East at Don Valley / Science Centre.
.ods spreadsheet of stop spacing & calculations btwn. stations for 5,6,10 provided. For some reason, UT doesnt allow ods but does allow zips, so it's compressed.
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