Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[Northern Light]

I'll bet more people visit the Montreal Botanical Gardens than the Toronto Botanical Gardens.

Could it because the Montreal version is close to the Pie-IX Metro Station?

In fairness the TBG is a much more modest garden than the one in Montreal, they can hardly be spoken of in the same breath.

There's also another factor; The Royal Botanical Garden in Burlington is competition for TBG...........or really not so much, again its a much larger, much more substantial facility.

There's one that could really use enhanced transit access.

Aldershot Station is quite close, but just have a look on Streetview at how you would get from the station to the Gardens on foot.......or by bike, not a nice journey at all.

Toronto (and Ontario) should be looking at how to make its attractions more accessible to the public transit users. The Toronto Botanical Gardens is one bad example.

The Toronto Botanical Gardens isn't ideally situated for transit access. That's true. But, of course, the park is here for other reasons (regulatory flood plain, Mr. Edwards, for whom Edwards Gardens was named, also chose to sell, specifically to Metro Toronto, with the intent of preserving the space as parkland).

The 'Botanical Garden' as tourist draw was not really thought of then.........

Other examples are the Toronto Zoo and Ontario Place. At least, the Ontario Science Centre will be improved, except for its own safari from the station to the entrance, for about ten years when the Ontario Line is completed.

The Zoo is getting a number of transit-related improvements; though it still won't be ideal.


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At any rate, we're getting well away from the subject of this thread.........

 

[reteequa]

In fairness the TBG is a much more modest garden than the one in Montreal, they can hardly be spoken of in the same breath.

There's also another factor; The Royal Botanical Garden in Burlington is competition for TBG...........or really not so much, again its a much larger, much more substantial facility.

There's one that could really use enhanced transit access.

Aldershot Station is quote close, but just have a look on Streetview at how you would from the station to the Gardens on foot.......or by bike, not a nice journey at all.

Route 1 in Burlington is the best bus service in the city just unfortunately doesn't stop at the GO station. Its 10-15 min frequency depending on the time of day an I expect that to improve as plains is developed more and more.

It does stop on the street at Burlington GO(2 min walk) and its east terminus is Appleby GO

Bus stop is only a 5 min walk though and takes you to RBG door step.

 

[reteequa]

Route 1 in Burlington is the best bus service in the city just unfortunately doesn't stop at the GO station. Its 10-15 min frequency depending on the time of day an I expect that to improve as plains is developed more and more.

It does stop on the street at Burlington GO(2 min walk) and its east terminus is Appleby GO

Bus stop is only a 5 min walk though and takes you to RBG door step.

Oh and it goes to Hamiltons downtown bus terminal.

Pretty sure HSR buses stop at RBG too

 

[drum118]

Still too much parking

Fully agree. Should be at 50% or less.

I like shopping at this NO Frills store and hope it remains and not become an upscale one. I would add a 2nd one, but this is Choice lands.

Oh and it goes to Hamiltons downtown bus terminal.

Pretty sure HSR buses stop at RBG too

HRS doesn't service the RBG the last time I was there. Getting there from Aldershot is a plain joke since next to no one gets pickup at the GO station in the first place and a long walk to Plains road In most cases I was the only one getting pickup going in either direction. With the new development there now, maybe a few more riders and haven't been there in a few years since I did my last bus rider from the station other than getting a GO bus.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

How long before we'll see gates at grade crossings? 5 years? 10 years? Depends upon the accountants.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

How long before we'll see gates at grade crossings? 5 years? 10 years? Depends upon the accountants.

I doubt we are going to need them as it is designed to go with the flow of traffic on the street and doesn't cross streets at any point other than at a normal cross street.

 

[ShonTron]

Fully agree. Should be at 50% or less.

I like shopping at this NO Frills store and hope it remains and not become an upscale one. I would add a 2nd one, but this is Choice lands.

HRS doesn't service the RBG the last time I was there. Getting there from Aldershot is a plain joke since next to no one gets pickup at the GO station in the first place and a long walk to Plains road In most cases I was the only one getting pickup going in either direction. With the new development there now, maybe a few more riders and haven't been there in a few years since I did my last bus rider from the station other than getting a GO bus.

Only the HSR 9 Rock Gardens bus serves RBG, but that’s long been a Sunday-only route designed to serve the many cemeteries. Burlington Transit Route 1 does provide decent service, and there was a free shuttle bus between the three garden areas until COVID. I’ve done that once.

A car, however, is good to have for RBG.

But at least it’s not McMichael Gallery level inaccessible.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

I doubt we are going to need them as it is designed to go with the flow of traffic on the street and doesn't cross streets at any point other than at a normal cross street.

They should test out the "transit priority", as it is supposed to be, on The Queensway. Maybe after the K-Q-Q-R intersection is finished, April 2022? Likely they won't, because the single-occupant motorist has priority for the city hall's powers-that-be.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

They should test out the "transit priority", as it is supposed to be, on The Queensway. Maybe after the K-Q-Q-R intersection is finished, April 2022? Likely they won't, because the single-occupant motorist has priority for the city hall's powers-that-be.

How does that relate to the idea of crossing gates being used on the Eglinton crosstown line? Also do people who suggest them actually understand what they are used for specifically?

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

How does that relate to the idea of crossing gates being used on the Eglinton crosstown line? Also do people who suggest them actually understand what they are used for specifically?

The Queensway has far-side stops for its streetcars, but instead of getting priority to go first at intersections, the streetcars have to wait for the green light, but then the single-occupant automobiles turning left go first before the streetcar. The stops on The Queensway are far apart, similar to the stops on Eglinton Avenue East, so they should test out REAL transit priority there. If it doesn't work, then use gates.

 

[11th]

The Queensway has far-side stops for its streetcars, but instead of getting priority to go first at intersections, the streetcars have to wait for the green light, but then the single-occupant automobiles turning left go first before the streetcar. The stops on The Queensway are far apart, similar to the stops on Eglinton Avenue East, so they should test out REAL transit priority there. If it doesn't work, then use gates.

I don't think gates can be used here regardless. Crosstown tracks are built as part of the street - trains follow same speed limit.

If we use Calgary C-Train as example (which does have gates), their tracks are built as regular rail lines in between two roadways. Their downtown section doesn't have gates.

ION doesn't have gates for on-street sections, and only have gates where it runs on exclusive ROW (with freight trains).

 

[Voltz]

I don't think gates can be used here regardless. Crosstown tracks are built as part of the street - trains follow same speed limit.

If we use Calgary C-Train as example (which does have gates), their tracks are built as regular rail lines in between two roadways. Their downtown section doesn't have gates.

ION doesn't have gates for on-street sections, and only have gates where it runs on exclusive ROW (with freight trains).

I'd be fine with short crossing arms for the left turn lanes on Eglinton, since that would seem to be the most likely source of LRV/car collisions, and would hopefully make the city not restrict speeds on the line.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

I'd be fine with short crossing arms for the left turn lanes on Eglinton, since that would seem to be the most likely source of LRV/car collisions, and would hopefully make the city not restrict speeds on the line.

Second best way to keep the crosswalk clear for the pedestrians.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Note that while some motor vehicle may have dash cameras, ALL the light rail vehicles will have dash cameras, and in addition will have cameras to both sides, and to the rear, and inside.

We need the light rail vehicle operator to be able to "bookmark" an incident (turning left against the light) and have their supervisor or police officer go through the video and send an ticket to the owner of the vehicle.