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Yonge Street, North York Streetscape Improvements

Can we get protected bike lanes on both Yonge and the bypass roads? Yes, this area was fairly vibrant on Fridays and Saturdays from what I remember. But it does need the planned public realm improvements.

@Northern Light you would be the right person to ask this: is it preferable to have a landscaped and treed median; or is it better to remove it, narrow the road and install replacement greenery on the sides of the road?
 
Can we get protected bike lanes on both Yonge and the bypass roads? Yes, this area was fairly vibrant on Fridays and Saturdays from what I remember. But it does need the planned public realm improvements.

@Northern Light you would be the right person to ask this: is it preferable to have a landscaped and treed median; or is it better to remove it, narrow the road and install replacement greenery on the sides of the road?

From the perspective of tree survival; there's nothing intrinsically good or bad about medians vs boulevards.

It's about the positives and negatives you're able to deliver in terms of the growing conditions.

So, it's about sunlight, it's about the amount of road salt; it's about moisture (access to rain, and/or irrigation); and it's about the volume and area of soil available for roots.

If you're dividing the median in 1/2 and grafting that on to each sidewalk as the entire space for trees that's clearly a loss.

But if you're adding to space accretively (net gain) that's already available for trees, that could be a win.

Preventing road salt is about speed-of-traffic (spray); and about actions to mitigate that (seat walls/curbs that reduce salt getting to a tree bed, proper drainage, and spring flushing if required).

If you're doing everything perfectly, so to speak; then it's either/or.

From a broader environmental perspective, it's about shade cover, and wildlife habitat.

If you must pick, in that scenario, it's likely trees on the sides would produce more shade, and be more likely to have some connectivity with existing natural spaces; though that's not really a given.

Having said that; if the trees are buffered by cycle tracks (less salt spray) that's definitely a good thing.
 

The city staff recommendation to get moving on the currently unfunded remake will be the latest test of a plan strongly endorsed by local councillor John Filion but opposed at council in 2018 by Mayor John Tory.

Not really a glowing endorsement. Classic Mayor Tory: leading from behind.

Toronto has an awful mayor and premier :(
 
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ughhh... This is unnaceptable. We're not building subways, are we?
 
This city is a joke when it comes to building anything infrastructure related. To think we've gone from being a one-time envy of the world to now laughing stalk in a couple decades its pretty amazing.

Yet another potential project we can add to John Tory's never ending list of "approved but unfunded projects".
 
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ughhh... This is unnaceptable. We're not building subways, are we?

No, we're not; and Thank goodness, or that 2 would be a 3...............by which i might mean....2036............or, @Amare might suggest 3026............

Either way.............by Toronto's standards.........6 years to repave a road isn't so bad! LOL
 
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ughhh... This is unnaceptable. We're not building subways, are we?

Echoing the other comments... why is there a 2 year gap between the study and design? Are they picking their noses in that time? Also, should design take two years? Can it be done in one? And they didn't even say how long it would take to build LOL
 
Echoing the other comments... why is there a 2 year gap between the study and design? Are they picking their noses in that time? Also, should design take two years? Can it be done in one? And they didn't even say how long it would take to build LOL
I was thinking it would take any competent urban design, transportation, and municipal engineering firm 1-2 months to produce a report, and those three studies could be commissioned concurrently.

2 years strikes me as cynically kicking the can down the road for some future administration to fund.
 
So, this passed at City Council today, with Tory voting for it. The only ones to vote against were (mostly unsurprisingly) Ford, Holyday, Minnan-Wong, Pasternak, and Thompson. Tory moved an amendment (which passed) that will prioritize space for patios, saving mature trees, and get such things as smart signals installed.

So, now, once Doris and Beecroft are completed, this goes ahead. They provide the extra lanes for traffic coming off Yonge, and then Yonge finally gets improved. Finally!

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So, this passed at City Council today, with Tory voting for it. The only ones to vote against were (mostly unsurprisingly) Ford, Holyday, Minnan-Wong, Pasternak, and Thompson. Tory moved an amendment (which passed) that will prioritize space for patios, saving mature trees, and get such things as smart signals installed.

So, now, once Doris and Beecroft are completed, this goes ahead. They provide the extra lanes for traffic coming off Yonge, and then Yonge finally gets improved. Finally!

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Here is Holyday's nutty reason to vote against this project.

 
Yeah, important for York Region types, Holyday's brethren, who want an express route to Yonge.

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