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Why Toronto isn't Buffalo, and vice versa

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Why Toronto isn't Buffalo, and vice versa

1/10/2006

By MARY KUNZ GOLDMAN

It's just across the lake, but really, it's worlds away.

That's why it's interesting to compare our town with Toronto.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not suggesting we beat ourselves up, envying Toronto's economic boom. Toronto is, after all, the biggest city in Canada.

Still, it's fun to get an outside perspective on Buffalo. And Toronto gives us that. Forget fears that, thanks to TV and McDonald's, the world is becoming smaller and all the same. Our two cities prove it's not so.

On the surface, it's funny enough. Toronto: "washroom." Buffalo: "bathroom." Toronto: Royal York. Buffalo: Royal subs. Names you don't hear in Toronto: Schwabl, Wardynski, Rizzo.

Dig deeper, and it's even more fascinating. Things to consider:

- Our stuff. Rick Spence, a Toronto business consultant, brings his family here for a weekend every year. His kids love the stores: "A Walgreens stop just before Christmas produced a treasure trove of Pokemon merchandise my younger kids were very excited about."

- Buffalo - talkin' loud! Here, you can walk out of Wegmans, say to no one in particular, "Looks like it's going to snow," and strangers will join the conversation. Don't try that in Toronto. They'll think you're a nut.

Spence says, kindly, of people here: "They always seem 15 percent friendlier and more outgoing - OK, louder - than the dour urban Canadians we see."

He adds: "Even your Christmas lights are usually done up bigger and prouder."

- Hold that door! Here, we go crazy holding doors for people. People will practically kill themselves so you don't miss an elevator.

In Toronto, folks let the door go in your face. When you hold it for them, they often just walk through, poker-faced, without thanks. It's a big-city thing. You can't take it personally.

- We wave that flag. "As Canadians, we're always puzzled by endless expressions of American patriotism (ribbons, bumper stickers, buttons, etc.)," Spence observes. He speculates: "The republic must seem much more vulnerable from inside the country than it does to those of us who live outside it."

- We jaywalk. Torontonians don't. And their drivers actually stop, not speed up, when the light turns red.

- Toronto's traffic is heavier than ours, but it's prettier. Here, folks cash their insurance checks and go on their merry way with bashed-in doors, duct-taped windows and dragging bumpers. Not so up north.

Rumor has it that Toronto has a law that demands cars be presentable. But guess what? "No, we don't," says Constable Wendy Drummond, media relations officer of the Toronto police. "We have emissions tests - you have to be environmentally sound."

- Toronto doesn't have our trashy booming car stereos. Drummond suggests that this, too, is a matter of courtesy rather than law. She adds, though: "We do get noise complaints. We enforce them when we can."

- Our slums are slummier. "We're not used to boarded-up buildings or rusting, derelict industrial sites," Spence says. "Buffalo isn't as bad as it was, but there is still a greater acceptance of - I don't know how to say it - urban wreckage."

He gently cites an abandoned Grand Island office building with broken windows that's visible from the I-190. "That would be unthinkable in Toronto."

- "A lot of Buffalonians are quick to talk down their city and what a dump it is - their word, not mine," says Spence. "That can't be good.

"And yet, there is so much pride as well," he notes. He tells of a Western New Yorker he met in a hotel pool. "He was seriously intending to move back, somehow, as soon as he could. I was very impressed with that."

e-mail: mkunz@buffnews.com
 
Interesting read...

Rumor has it that Toronto has a law that demands cars be presentable. But guess what? "No, we don't," says Constable Wendy Drummond, media relations officer of the Toronto police. "We have emissions tests - you have to be environmentally sound."

Hmm I think this more or less due to the fact that GTA residents are doing a little better economically than the folks in Buffalo. I've noticed this too. In other American cities such as Boston for example, the cars are pretty much the same as in TO, in some like Buffalo you see beaters everywhere. With dirt cheap insurance and cheap/free city parking low income residents in Buffalo can afford to drive, and they're not going to be driving nice cars... it's as simple as that. In Toronto they just buy a metro pass.
 
Same old stereotypes tossed together for yet another article...
 
There are tonnes of Rizzo's in Toronto. In fact, Tony Rizzo was an NDP member of the provincial legislature for many years and his son Luigi Rizzo ran against Howard Moscoe municipally a time or two as well.
 
I don't mean to nitpick, but should a factchecker not be able to see that Buffalo is on Lake Erie, while Toronto is on Lake Ontario?
 
Regarding the opening and holding of doors...this is one city where I find it rare for someone not to hold the door for the person behind them!
 
I think the generalizations about talking to strangers and holding doors have more to do with the size of a city than the people themselves. The bigger and therefore more congested a city is, the bigger the crowds, the less feasible it becomes to talk to every stranger you come across.
 
He gently cites an abandoned Grand Island office building with broken windows that's visible from the I-190. "That would be unthinkable in Toronto."

Yup, totally noticed that on my way to downtown Buffalo today! It's a disgrace! The local officials should really do something about building.

I also hear that the Buffalo Waterfront is getting a new Casino.

Louroz
 
I don't mean to nitpick, but should a factchecker not be able to see that Buffalo is on Lake Erie, while Toronto is on Lake Ontario?

Don't be concerned, that caught my attention, too.
 
- We jaywalk. Torontonians don't.
What a bunch of BS. I don't know one Torontonian that doesn't cross the street on a red light when the road is clear. But then again there are bound to be some.
 
^ I do that on any street except Bloor, which always seems to have crazy taxis and cars that come out of nowhere on it. At night I'll walk across intersections diagonally.
 
At most minor intersections it's hard not to jaywalk. Those are the places where the lights along the big street won't change unless you press continuously on the old call button (not the new ones that light up when you press it once), or when a car wants to turn left from the small street. Most people wonder why they've pressed the call button once and the lights haven't changed in ten minutes... then they get fed up and cross the street without a signal change.

Maybe we need a technology change. Perhaps installing sensors under the sidewalk that detects pedestrians who want to cross the street?
 

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