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Waterfront Transit Reset Phase 1 Study

How should Toronto connect the East and West arms of the planned waterfront transit with downtown?

  • Expand the existing Union loop

    Votes: 223 70.6%
  • Build a Western terminus

    Votes: 16 5.1%
  • Route service along Queen's Quay with pedestrian/cycle/bus connection to Union

    Votes: 34 10.8%
  • Connect using existing Queen's Quay/Union Loop and via King Street

    Votes: 25 7.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 18 5.7%

  • Total voters
    316
But imagine a St. Clair line, from Warden station to Kipling station. With rail crossings of the ravines and valleys between Mount Pleasant and Woodbine!

Would be fun to ride, but not easy to build.

Plus, the existing St Clair west section cannot run any faster, because of the built form / amount of traffic lights. Even if some stops are removed, the traffic lights will stay.

As a short, standalone feeder for the two branches of Yonge line, St Clair West streetcar is fine. As a part of crosstown route, I feel it would be impractical.
 
The capacity is more than adequate for many years to come. And tunnelling was necessary if you wanted to build it. With 90-metre long stations the capacity reduction is primarily in the length of the stations than anything else; which is similar to what we see on the Ontario line as well. If it ever gets to needing 4 times the current anticipated ridership, we'll be into another generation of equipment. At that point a vehicle could be selected that can run automatically every 90 seconds between Pearson and Don Valley station, with minor modifications at Leslie, increasing capacity to heavy rail numbers.

There's certainly modern subways with less capacity. The 40-metres stations (perhaps expandable to 50 metres) of the Canada line come to mind! 🤣



Sheppard seems a bit far to me. But there's other alternatives on Lawrence and/or St. Clair - which would be fantastic. But long after most of us are dead, I'd think.

But imagine a St. Clair line, from Warden station to Kipling station. With rail crossings of the ravines and valleys between Mount Pleasant and Woodbine!
We seem to be off-route around here!
 
This in the 2026 Budget documents .. https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2026/bu/bgrd/backgroundfile-261344.pdf

The 2026 Budget does not include a request for funding new initiatives. However, additional resources may be required in 2026 and future years to advance EELRT and WELRT projects to their next design development phases. Any future funding requests will be presented for Council consideration through a staff report anticipated in the first quarter of 2026. (My highlighting.)
 
A lot of UT member will be long gone and will miss the ride when this sucker starts service in 2050. The cost is out of hand considering TTC used to say it cost $50 million per km for a double track ROW. The portal will cost more than the $50 million. It shows how much is been eaten up for the tunnel and loop as well helping a few other TTC projects or other projects.
If TTC cannot do the QQE ROW for $400-$500 million, they need to cease to exist. TTC was short $90 million back in 2014 going to Parliament loop and that well over cost increase in 11 years.

The end of Q1 for a report is when the Executive Committee is to meet again.

Six projects Toronto wants to build — but hasn’t got funding for

6. Waterfront East LRT (priceless)​

Numbers may cease to have meaning when it comes to building new transit lines in Toronto, but the estimated cost for the 3.8-kilometre line is $2.57 billion, with about $150 million spent on planning so far. It would run from Union Station to Villiers Loop in the Portlands, going along Queens Quay and Cherry Street. While it is a priority project for the city, which is heavily investing in developing the eastern waterfront including the new Ookwemin Minising neighbourhood, it is unclear when the project will move forward.
 

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