Waterfront Transit Reset Phase 1 Study

[turbanplanner]

True but with streetcars, you could actually automate the service with AI and self driving vehicles. The technology is there it just needs to be trained. However, one can build a line and provide minimal service until demand grows. The city government is just plain incompetent and doesn’t know what to prioritize. It tries to do too much and fails miserably.

LOL the union wouldn't let a fully automated train run without a driver. (The RT)

 

[lead82]

LOL the union wouldn't let a fully automated train run without a driver. (The RT)

I know. It’s why it took so long to get the subways down to just 1 driver. Our trains don’t need one but we have one as precaution. The union and legacy leadership is what has held back the system from modernizing or heck even keeping the track maintained- basic maintenance.

 

[Jeff Morgan]

Marketing video from Waterfront BIA

 

[evandyk]

Sorry to break it to him, but "Now" isn't the time to build the Waterfront ELRT. "Ten years ago" was the time to build it, before they built a whole neighbourhood there with almost no transit access. But since they didn't, so it's true that they should finally get around to it, despite it not being funded yet.

 

[mburrrrr]

Who is this video for? The next Provincial and Federal leader/voters. No issues here - get’er done.

 

[Towered]

Those with say have been clownishly unserious about this project for 15 years now. Why even bother?

 

[innsertnamehere]

This probably just won't happen until Ford is out of government, unfortunately. I just don't see him funding a "streetcar".

 

[DSC]

Sorry to break it to him, but "Now" isn't the time to build the Waterfront ELRT. "Ten years ago" was the time to build it, before they built a whole neighbourhood there with almost no transit access. But since they didn't, so it's true that they should finally get around to it, despite it not being funded yet.

YES, this pitch is a decade or more late. WT and the City went on and one about "Transit First" when they started to look at QQE but then did not fund it. Crazy and VERY stupid.

 

[drum118]

YES, this pitch is a decade or more late. WT and the City went on and one about "Transit First" when they started to look at QQE but then did not fund it. Crazy and VERY stupid.

If it wasn't for the Union Loop cost on day one, it would have been built by now. $90 million has jump to a billon dollars just for the loop that is a stripped down version from what is really needed for it.

The BIA has been calling for the line for decades and are part of the CLC for it.

 

[ARG1]

If it wasn't for the Union Loop cost on day one, it would have been built by now. $90 million has jump to a billon dollars just for the loop that is a stripped down version from what is really needed for it.

The BIA has been calling for the line for decades and are part of the CLC for it.

Solution: Cancel Eglinton East, this deserves funding way more.

 

[Amare]

Solution: Cancel Eglinton East, this deserves funding way more.

Eglinton East has 0 funding attributed to it, and it will always be a pipeline dream as long as the city has oversight over it.

 

[ARG1]

Eglinton East has 0 funding attributed to it, and it will always be a pipeline dream as long as the city has oversight over it.

Doesn't it have some funding with that transit levy Rob put in place back in the 2010s?

Regardless even if there's no money, it would still be easier to concentrate all funding to one project, than to awkwardly split it up into multiple projects.

 

[Amare]

Doesn't it have some funding with that transit levy Rob put in place back in the 2010s?

Regardless even if there's no money, it would still be easier to concentrate all funding to one project, than to awkwardly split it up into multiple projects.

I dont think that's officially allocated to the Eglinton East LRT.

You're right in that in would be better to concentrate all that funding to one project, and that project should be the Waterfront East "LRT", not Eglinton.

 

[junctionist]

This probably just won't happen until Ford is out of government, unfortunately. I just don't see him funding a "streetcar".

In that case, let's ask for a short subway line between the Port Lands and the downtown core like Montreal's Yellow Line. It could be built using Ontario Line-style trains and one day be extended to Ontario Place or the dense neighbourhoods near the lake in the west end (e.g Parkdale and Humber Bay Shores).

 

[drum118]

In that case, let's ask for a short subway line between the Port Lands and the downtown core like Montreal's Yellow Line. It could be built using Ontario Line-style trains and one day be extended to Ontario Place or the dense neighbourhoods near the lake in the west end (e.g Parkdale and Humber Bay Shores).

What decades do you see this line running as well how much do you think it will cost???