Waterfront Transit Reset Phase 1 Study

[ARG1]

With how the TTC is operating the Finch West LRT, i think we should just build a BRT for this line and get it built within a year.
an LRT would just be a waste of billion of dollars for worst service (Slower and less frequent).

Even in the worst case scenerio, an LRT here is frankly fine. What makes Finch West a problem is that its suburban - operating in an environment where speeds are extremely important and you need to travel several kilometres to reach anywhere useful. This isn't the case for a downtown LRT like this one. Obviously it should ideally be faster like 17-19km/h, but a slow line isn't the end of the world, and the capacity for the portlands will be important.

 

[Obsidian]

I don't see how spending 3 billion would be worth it since a BRT would be faster and come more frequent. lets spend the few transit dollars we have for higher order transit like expanding the Ontario or Sheppard line.

 

[ARG1]

I don't see how spending 3 billion would be worth it since a BRT would be faster and come more frequent. lets spend the few transit dollars we have for higher order transit like expanding the Ontario or Sheppard line.

The LRT would be able to make use of the facilities and provide a direct connection to Union Station, and handle the heavy capacity that the network would require for the redevelopment of the portlands. Like this is the prime example of an area where investing the extra into LRT would actually make a lot of sense especially in the long term where we will have branches to various parts of the Portlands and connections to other streetcars like Cherry, Parliament, and Broadview.

 

[Obsidian]

The LRT would be able to make use of the facilities and provide a direct connection to Union Station, and handle the heavy capacity that the network would require for the redevelopment of the portlands. Like this is the prime example of an area where investing the extra into LRT would actually make a lot of sense especially in the long term where we will have branches to various parts of the Portlands and connections to other streetcars like Cherry, Parliament, and Broadview.

With all the turns you would need to service the docklands, an LRT will be slow as hell. you can route the BRT to one of a half dozen location besides Union for passengers to access Union quickly. I think putting a stop to access the Bay street teamway would work well as a BRT stop. Just this and we save 3 billion

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There is one thing the TTC does better than almost every other transit system and that's Buses, we should aim to improve their Bus netowrk.

 

[DSCToronto]

With all the turns you would need to service the docklands, an LRT will be slow as hell. you can route the BRT to one of a half dozen location besides Union for passengers to access Union quickly. I think putting a stop to access the Bay street teamway would work well as a BRT stop. Just this and we save 3 billion

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There is one thing the TTC does better than almost every other transit system and that's Buses, we should aim to improve their Bus netowrk.

I think your comments might be more valuable if you looked at the MANY studies of the LRT and the reasons why it was seen as being clearly better to have an LRT and not buses.

 

[Obsidian]

I think your comments might be more valuable if you looked at the MANY studies of the LRT and the reasons why it was seen as being clearly better to have an LRT and not buses.

Well how many studies were done for the Finch LRT and look at the states of it now.
If the TTC is running the waterfront LRT its operations are going to be subpar, might as well save a lot of money and time and just go with BRT now.