Bordercollie
Senior Member
Cheaper than what they paid for the Newmarket sub I would bet.
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VIA Rail
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smallspy
Senior Member
Is this a recent development? The RDCs have wyed there many, many times over the years.
Dan
lenaitch
Senior Member
Sorry, no clue what the cost would be, besides 'a lot'.
As mentioned often by others, starting/restoring a passenger train, like anything else a government does, is as much a political decision as it is anything else. The highway is only "an expressway" south of North Bay and there is no direct Cochrane/Timmins to Toronto bus.
As far as I know, VIA's RDC are serviced by a private company in Capreol but stand to be corrected.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
According to Global News, the federal government is slashing Via Rail's budget by 50% ($1 Billion) this coming year:
At the same time, the budget for the department of Finance is being increased by $8.5 Billion and the budget for National Defense is being increased by $5.3 Billion, and Via HFR is being increased by $0.1 Billion. Not sure why HFR is still a department, unless Alto is still operating under that name.
At the same time, the budget for the department of Finance is being increased by $8.5 Billion and the budget for National Defense is being increased by $5.3 Billion, and Via HFR is being increased by $0.1 Billion. Not sure why HFR is still a department, unless Alto is still operating under that name.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Looks like Canada Post is going to need to find either a new dance partner or new business model.According to Global News, the federal government is slashing Via Rail's budget by 50% ($1 Billion) this coming year:
At the same time, the budget for the department of Finance is being increased by $8.5 Billion and the budget for National Defense is being increased by $5.3 Billion, and Via HFR is being increased by $0.1 Billion. Not sure why HFR is still a department, unless Alto is still operating under that name.
nfitz
Superstar
Yes, highway is to the south. In my mind North Bay to Timmins was the need; Toronto to North Bay is the luxury - and I don't know how that would be any more beneficial to revenue than a reliable daily Toronto to Sudbury train. Does anyone have the current ridership of those who get off northbound at Sudbury?
Will it though? Funding is normally zero, and it's self-sustaining. Though since Covid it's been getting loans to function. They had a one-time cash infusion to stabilize it, and deal with past debt. I'm not sure what has changed.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Really. For some reason this table only shows 1982-1986, but it seems taxpayer support is a little more enduring. Certainly not the $1Bn+ of late, but not nothing.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Really. For some reason this table only shows 1982-1986, but it seems taxpayer support is a little more enduring. Certainly not the $1Bn+ of late, but not nothing.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Again, I'm sure the ONR would gladly provide some kind of Sudbury-Toronto service if the government was willing to fund it. I thing the kind of federal-state partnership similar to what Amtrak has would be a good model, but we currently don't have that.
legoswmonkey
New Member
The explanation I saw for these eye-popping percentages is exactly that, there was a one-time loan last budget for Canada Post, and the drop for VIA is because they have completed purchasing the Ventures.
generalcanada
Senior Member
capital and operating were combined. bit weird. if thats the case
nfitz
Superstar
Well, it is Global News ...
. I'm not sure the government would release it that way.Gosh, the government is still considering Canada Post as "loans"? Though I guess that table assume no payback!
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
Realistically, nothing concrete from VIA and probably just railfan scuttlebutt. Then there's this: If they used F40PHs on that line, they'd regularly have to deadhead down to Toronto for maintenance, which is a pretty expensive operation because it means running over CP tracks on which VIA doesn't have any running rights.
nfitz
Superstar
Well, it is Global News ...
. I'm not sure the government would release it that way.Gosh, the government is still considering Canada Post as "loans"? Though I guess that table assume no payback!
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
Breaking...Buffer cars to be required coming Monday on LRC consists...structural integrity issues discovered last September. I've seen this movie before....