TTC: Streetcar Network

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[Jonny5]

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Whew! February is going to be one traffic nightmare spilling all out of and around that whole area.
Liberty Village is going to be perma-gridlocked again as people try to get out via Strachan.

 

[Jonny5]

Oh, the TTC side of the notice has many more details.

• At least one travel lane in each direction on Bathurst Street will be maintained during Phases 1 and 3.
• There will be no southbound travel on Bathurst Street during Phase 2.
• At least one travel lane in each direction on Lake Shore Boulevard West will remain open during all phases.
• Turn movements will be prohibited at the intersection of Bathurst Street and Lake Shore Boulevard West.
• During Phase 1 and 2, no eastbound left turns on Fleet Street at Bathurst Street will be allowed.
• Sidewalk access will be maintained at all times. When required, temporary pedestrian detours will be established with pedestrian detour signage.
• Parking will not be permitted within the work zones.
• Access to businesses and properties will be maintained.

 

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Oh, the TTC side of the notice has many more details.

• At least one travel lane in each direction on Bathurst Street will be maintained during Phases 1 and 3.
• There will be no southbound travel on Bathurst Street during Phase 2.
• At least one travel lane in each direction on Lake Shore Boulevard West will remain open during all phases.
• Turn movements will be prohibited at the intersection of Bathurst Street and Lake Shore Boulevard West.
• During Phase 1 and 2, no eastbound left turns on Fleet Street at Bathurst Street will be allowed.
• Sidewalk access will be maintained at all times. When required, temporary pedestrian detours will be established with pedestrian detour signage.
• Parking will not be permitted within the work zones.
• Access to businesses and properties will be maintained.

Thanks, what is not clear (to me anyway) is whether they are going to shift the streetcar tracks on Bathurst to the west side of the street from the rail bridge (Fort York Blvd) to Lake Shore and create a separated track. This was spoken about a few years ago and would seem a good idea and not that hard to do.

 

[Jonny5]

Thanks, what is not clear (to me anyway) is whether they are going to shift the streetcar tracks on Bathurst to the west side of the street from the rail bridge (Fort York Blvd) to Lake Shore and create a separated track. This was spoken about a few years ago and would seem a good idea and not that hard to do.

Do you mean both north and south, or only south? I think northbound would be hard since those link up with the tracks from the other side of Lake Shore and then those may need to be reconfigured too. This may cause a very tight left turn for the 509 heading to the Ex on Fleet or the 511 heading north from Fleet.

 

[drum118]

Do you mean both north and south, or only south? I think northbound would be hard since those link up with the tracks from the other side of Lake Shore and then those may need to be reconfigured too. This may cause a very tight left turn for the 509 heading to the Ex on Fleet or the 511 heading north from Fleet.

It can be done with the shifting of traffic stop location further west than it is as well shifting fleet tracks to the south to keep the same turning radius that exist today. The platform would have to be further west as well

Even thought there was talk of doing this a few years ago, I don't think the shifting of the tracks to the curb lane will happen unless it can be done without an EA, Shifting the tracks south of Lake Shore would require closing the access entrance/exit off on Bathurst.

Shifting the tracks west between Fort York and Fleet would improve streetcar service a lot better for the 511 as it would not have to deal with light to a point, but need a new set at York from going from the centre to the west side. Traffic would no longer have an impact on the 511 and better flow for them.

We will know come February/March as to what is going to take place for the track.

Then there is TTC track replacement on QQ east of Bathurst St to east of Yo-Yo Ma Lane that is now over due now, That was talked about as well redoing QQ to match the rest of the road to the east of Yo-Yo Ma Lane and will that happen or straight track replacement??

 

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Do you mean both north and south, or only south? I think northbound would be hard since those link up with the tracks from the other side of Lake Shore and then those may need to be reconfigured too. This may cause a very tight left turn for the 509 heading to the Ex on Fleet or the 511 heading north from Fleet.

The discussions (several years ago) were to move both tracks from the bridge to Lake Shore / Fleet to west side of the street and stop all westbound cars etc on the first few blocks of Fleet. This might need an EA and is not, I suspect, in their 2025 plans but ...