nfitz
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Which is why I previously had removed what you replied to, from my post.
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Mihairokov
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I take the 501/503/504/505/506 fairly regularly along with 75 Sherbourne and don't have all that many run-ins. Saw someone sleeping at Broadview Station last night and in the amount of time it took my WB subway to arrive (~4mins) there was already someone from TTC standing over them phoning someone. Not everyone is dangerous, you just need to give people space sometimes.
Anecdotes are only anecdotes. I guess something to keep in mind for people who aren't familiar is that you mostly just have to avert your gaze and most people won't bother you. If you feel uncomfortable on a streetcar i'd recommend sitting near the front as usually people who fare evade/cause issues on streetcars will be away from the driver when possible. Stations like King are fully staffed if you ever have any issues. As an average-sized white guy I can only offer so much advice and know things are different and much more difficult for women especially. I will wait for a 501 at Jarvis & Queen but I wouldn't recommend it for women, depending on the day.
nfitz
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That said there was a crazy at the back of the 506 today. The 504, two 501s, and 92 were all fine. As usual.
And looking at my Presto card, it looks like I actually failed to tap (or it didn't register) when I got on the 506! Perhaps the guy ranting about devil worship the second I walked through the door distracted me. I'm not sure if he was for or against it, as I decided I'd walk down the car.
Pretty dumb, as I see enough inspectors mid-day on 506.
81-717
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Mihairokov
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What does this have to do with the above? It's disingenuous to say all girls are dangerous because of this swarming incident, and if anything it should be noted that Lee was homeless and was likely attacked because he had alcohol on him.
81-717
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I didn't say all are, I said it's possible even when you least expect it.
Mihairokov
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Sure, and it's possible that the 505 grows wings or Eglinton XTown opens tomorrow, but it's still disingenuous to imply such a thing.
81-717
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It's disingenuous to equate something that physically cannot happen to something that has actually happened before.
Mihairokov
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Someone individually attacking you on the TTC after you ask them to be polite is not equivalent to being randomly jumped by a group of teenage girls. I'm exaggerating on purpose, but you're sorely reaching for straws with these comparisons.
I get tired enough coming to this thread weekly and finding people moaning about other citizens and calling them all sorts of things rather than maybe addressing the root causes of why these people are they way they are, but it seems excessive to imply that one thing may happen to you because of one entirely unrelated event from years ago, especially when that thing happened to the same kind of person that people here love to complain about with their unsubstantiated anecdotes of how "scary" and "dangerous" riding public transit is because someone who visually looks like something they don't like is within thirty feet of them. Hard pass. We live in a city and need to do a better job of respecting everyone else that lives here, too, regardless of how we might feel about their situation. Posting videos of incidents on the TTC without context is akin to pearl-clutching and only serves to not only degrade our services but act as ammunition to further inflate things like enforcement budgets. 6ixbuzz and their ilk do enough of this garbage and I don't really need to read it here, too, IMO.
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This was passed at TTC Board today. Could it be connected to the early (maybe) departure of Mr Leary?
TTC1.13 - New TTC Policy - TTC CEO Misconduct Complaints
Status: Receivedturbanplanner
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Cool, but at one point close to 50% of riders feel unsafe on the TTC, and even their own counsel told someone that it's their fault for being pushed onto the tracks because they were travelling alone.
When the TTC themselves say travelling alone is foolish are we going to pretend there isn't potentially a safety issue?
Source on the Jails being over capacity, which results in people who should probably be locked up getting bail.
If you want me to I can PM you some articles about habitual offenders getting 5th or 6th chances.
This is the guy who gets attacked by a crackhead every third time he rides the TTC (anecdotally) so clearly his anecdotes are all trustworthy.
The car thief story is true, though. Not that I'd want to base our bail system on an outlier case of one offence caught on video and going viral on twitter, but it has its problems.
Alleged Ontario Porsche thief granted bail for 2nd time in a week | Globalnews.ca
The woman made headlines last week after Peel police identified her as a suspect in a brazen theft in Mississauga which was caught on camera.globalnews.ca
Why put words in my mouth?
I think the burden of proof people put on me is insane. What will you ask me to prove next?
Most of the time I take the subway is in the evening hours, but even in the day I run into issues.
There are thousands of "security incidents" on the TTC every year (check the open data site)
Streetcar: 1722 incidents in 2024, and almost 1000 *ASSULTS* on the subway system
And these are just the ones that are reported and resulted in a delay.
Open Data Dataset - City of Toronto Open Data Portal
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Open Data Dataset - City of Toronto Open Data Portal
open.toronto.ca
Last time I was on a man was yelling how he'd smash peoples heads in. Do you want me to film the crazy guy? Will you pay for my time off?
But here are some photos of some of the incidents I've had to deal with delays on.
I've only had a few incidents were someone personally targeted me, but in my experience it's fairly regular to come across someone clearly unwell and threatening violence.
Even if people for some reason think I like to make up my experiences, the thousands of confirmed incidents by the TTC themselves seem silly to ignore.
Mihairokov
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Here's a peek at my unlawful, unruly, awful 504 trip tonight, brimming with the scum of the earth and truly terrifying people. What a miserable, terrible city we live in, filled with people I loathe because I view them as beneath me.
I'm just kidding of course, everything was fine and there wasn't any issue at all. Millions of people take the TTC every day without incident, like I did tonight.
81-717
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Photoshop? or Ai?
(yes, I too am exaggerating on purpose just like you)
smh there we go again, back to the loathed square oneThis is funny:
Could a federal election derail funding for Toronto's new Line 2 subway cars?
The $2.3-billion purchase of a new fleet of cars for Toronto’s Line 2 subway was made in November, tentatively promising some relief for the aging line.www.thestar.com
Toronto has 25 Liberal MPs and 0 Conservatives. No wonder they couldn't find any Toronto Conservative MPs to commit. The only MP whose riding has a touch of subway line in it is Melissa Lantsman, whose hobby is harassing Nate Erskine-Smith, not supporting the TTC.
(PP also evading giving an answer to whether he'll jeopardize this or not, just like the feds kept dragging their heels committing funding for nearly 2 years before finally folding 2 months ago)
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nfitz
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Given the years of reports of complaints we were hearing - and apparently no process to deal with them ... well let us be calling this one Leary's Law.
Steve X
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Maybe TTC should create a Plan B: Line 2 shutdown plan.Photoshop? or Ai?
smh there we go again, back to the loathed square one
In order to preserve to available trains for service, rush hour service would be prioritized.
They can initially cut the operating hours to 6am-10pm weekdays and 8am-7pm weekend with the remaining period using buses. Remove the bike lanes and create a bus lane instead.
As the trains continue to fail. Close off the outer end of the line leaving service between Keele and Woodbine. Other East-West routes will receive express and additional service to help relieve the Line 2 replacement buses.
The 3rd stage is to run the trains only in rush hour with full busitution at all other times. Hopefully the OL is running by now. Oh yeah, Eglinton and Finch LRT would be opening by then hopefully.
If they still don't receive money for new trains, shut down Line 2 permanently.
I present the future of the TTC!