lenaitch
Senior Member
OK, I'm not up on all the tech. How is he recording the first ride? Is he using a drone in a 'follow me' mode?
There are a dozen or so stations that are associated with a lot of what I mentioned above.
They would yield the greatest return.
But you want ATC in place, so that means Line 2 Stations would have to wait.
Sheppard was building w/these doors in mind and I imagine the stations on the TYSSE were as well, so they should be low-cost re-fits.
At Yonge-Bloor I think they should be tied into the 1.5B reno set to occur, where the cost would hardly be a rounding error on that budget.
Though in the case of Y-B I strongly favour extending air conditioning to the platform levels at the same time. I had a friend who was heading home via subway late the other night and reported that Y-B, was overcrowded and in the heat people were feeling feint. Makes sense to me in stations low-ceilings and less capacity that experience crowding to add A/C.
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In terms of R.O.I, I think the investment in strategic stations would yields a fare bit of additional service, with no additional trains, a fairly worthwhile investment.
That does go down when you get to less beneficial stations, though it there are advantages in finishing entire lines in one go.
The problem with adding AC at places like Yonge and Bloor is the portals along with the needed infrastructure. There is no public facing HVAC systems in the station and the portal would still let the heat, humidity and cold weather in.
If it was possible to put proper HVAC in the stations the towers, AP Rooms and other staff areas would already have it. Collector Booths all have portable AC Units and St George has a myriad of rooms with portable AC units.
I realise that we need ATC first so that the doors can line up correctly and completely agree with you that installing doors during major station upgrade projects is the way to go. My primary point was that we should get away from the idea that we must do EVERY station (on a line) all at once. It could be a 25-year plan (like the AODA planning).There are a dozen or so stations that are associated with a lot of what I mentioned above.
They would yield the greatest return.
But you want ATC in place, so that means Line 2 Stations would have to wait.
Sheppard was building w/these doors in mind and I imagine the stations on the TYSSE were as well, so they should be low-cost re-fits.
At Yonge-Bloor I think they should be tied into the 1.5B reno set to occur, where the cost would hardly be a rounding error on that budget.
Though in the case of Y-B I strongly favour extending air conditioning to the platform levels at the same time. I had a friend who was heading home via subway late the other night and reported that Y-B, was overcrowded and in the heat people were feeling feint. Makes sense to me in stations low-ceilings and less capacity that experience crowding to add A/C.
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In terms of R.O.I, I think the investment in strategic stations would yields a fare bit of additional service, with no additional trains, a fairly worthwhile investment.
That does go down when you get to less beneficial stations, though it there are advantages in finishing entire lines in one go.
I think he used a selfie stick.OK, I'm not up on all the tech. How is he recording the first ride? Is he using a drone in a 'follow me' mode?
And Pape Station on Line 2 (interchange station with Danforth Station on the Ontario Line). Then there's the question of platform doors on Line 5 (interchange station with Science Centre Station).Along the same lines as adding platform doors/AC to Bloor-Yonge during it's rebuild, the TTC should look at whether we could implement platform doors (and maybe AC?) at Queen and Osgoode while both stations are going to be having work done as part of the Ontario Line. Ideally Pape as well, but that depends on how ATC implementation on Line 2 goes.
It would have been retrofitted in later, not enough depth in the floor for the machineryWhat the heck is the story behind that escalator having stairs??
The base of the escalator would be sticking out of the tunnel roof if built like it should be. To deal with the clearance issue in the tunnel/station roof, extra steps has to be built to get to the correct height clearance and hell with accessibility.
Request for Proposal Call number: Doc2092511351 Commodity: Goods and Services, Transportation Services and Rentals Description: Automated Transit Shuttle Trial Service
The City of Toronto is seeking a qualified Vendor to supply a automated transit shuttle service using a vehicle that operates with a High Degree of Automation for a limited-term trial in the City of Toronto. The project is jointly delivered by the City of Toronto Transportation Services Division in partnership with the Toronto Transit Commission (“TTC”) and Metrolinx.Issue date: November 14, 2019 Closing date: December 6, 2019
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Residents in West Rouge will soon start to see a new vehicle on the road. Starting in September, the West Rouge Automated Shuttle begins mapping and testing to verify its route. This temporary shuttle trial is a joint project of the City of Toronto, TTC, and Metrolinx. Its purpose is to better understand how automated vehicles interact with regular traffic, and how small automated vehicles might be used to fill gaps in the existing transit system. We aim to demonstrate the future opportunity for safe, green, accessible and convenient transit technology to support neighbourhood needs.
ABOUT THE VEHICLE
- Electrically powered & fully accessible
- Driven by on-board computers but a human attendant always available to take over
- Low-speed: Drives no faster than 20 km/hr in automated mode
- About the size of a large van, carries up to 8 passengers
WHAT TO EXPECT
- Summer 2021: New shuttle stops and signage installed.
- September 2021: Shuttle to begin learning the route with a human driver, followed by testing and validation of automated driving on this route.
- November 2021: Free passenger service starts. The shuttle will meet the GO Trains for 3 hours in the morning and 3 hours each afternoon. On weekdays it will follow a neighbourhood route. Weekend service focuses on the Rouge National Urban Park and the West Rouge Community Centre. The shuttle will also be seen on residential streets outside the designated route as it travels to and from its storage location.
- To protect public health, passengers must book a ride at toronto.ca/avshuttle
- Winter 2021/22: Service will continue while weather permits until February 28, 2022.
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU!
Pre-Launch Survey: Understanding public opinions is an important part of this trial project. Please go online and complete our pre-launch survey to let us know what you think about this trial local transit service so far.
Virtual Public Meeting: Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 7 p.m. – 8:30 p.m. Presentation and Question & Answer Period. Register to attend at: toronto.ca/avshuttle
CONTACT:
Jennifer Niece
Sr. Project Manager, City of Toronto
Telephone: 416-397-9710
Email: automatedvehicles@toronto.ca