TTC: Other Items (catch all)

[Richard White]

really not a high bar

Well unless you have tens of billions of dollars lying around we can't tear down every station and rebuild it

 

[Undead]

Yeah I'm being facetious. But I believe someone knowledgeable on this forum said renovating one station would cost $20-50 million. Perhaps in non COVID times, we could have scrounged up the cash to fix up the worst 5-10 stations.

 

[drum118]

The TTC wants to test ‘platoons’ of driverless buses

 

[drum118]

We can start with Warden since it to become something like VP starting 2021.

TTC needs to start from the ground up for the existing station to the point the station is out of service for a year or 2, with trains bypassing it.

Should look at Islington as well since a new terminal has to be built for it and meet AODA standards.

 

[smallspy]

Is vitrolite not the tile material they used in the 60s? Or was that for the original 50s stations?

Vitrolite was a specific brand of glass-glazed industrial tile. And they stopped producing it shortly after the opening of the original Yonge Line in the 1950s.

The tile used on the B-D line is a faced brick material that is capable of being self-supporting. Think of thin cinderblocks that have a nice coating on one side.

Dan

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

TTC needs to start from the ground up for the existing station to the point the station is out of service for a year or 2, with trains bypassing it.

I don't understand why you seem to think they need to have trains by pas warden well they rebuild it to put in elevators. They didn't do that with Victoria park it was fully open with the buses boarding on street with one or two diverted to either Warden or Main street. Honestly, if they can keep Kenedy station running well the crosstown is being built I think they can handle Warden station's bus terminal being rebult.

 

[Richard White]

I don't understand why you seem to think they need to have trains by pas warden well they rebuild it to put in elevators. They didn't do that with Victoria park it was fully open with the buses boarding on street with one or two diverted to either Warden or Main street. Honestly, if they can keep Kenedy station running well the crosstown is being built I think they can handle Warden station's bus terminal being rebult.

In order to make Warden AODA compliant you need 11 elevators (9 for the bus bays, 1 to/from the subway platform and 1 to/from street level). Combine that with the fact that station was built as a terminal and has all the surplus spaces to show for it. You need to keep in mind that there is a massive corridor that runs behind the stores and behind the escalators to the subway platform.

The station is aging, it is overbuilt for its current needs and is in need of repairs (the windows are busted, the station mezzanine leaks and the exterior cladding is slowly being replaced by wood in spots).

That said you really cannot by-pass Warden if you are to demo and rebuild it. The subway tracks are directly above the mezzanine level meaning that any attempt to demolish that area would demolish the subway tracks. You also have a second exit running directly behind the bus bays out to Warden and the main entrance is via the kiss and ride directly beside the bus bays.

In order to demolish Warden Station you would need to turn back at Vic Park.

 

[Voltz]

In order to make Warden AODA compliant you need 11 elevators (9 for the bus bays, 1 to/from the subway platform and 1 to/from street level). Combine that with the fact that station was built as a terminal and has all the surplus spaces to show for it. You need to keep in mind that there is a massive corridor that runs behind the stores and behind the escalators to the subway platform.

The station is aging, it is overbuilt for its current needs and is in need of repairs (the windows are busted, the station mezzanine leaks and the exterior cladding is slowly being replaced by wood in spots).

That said you really cannot by-pass Warden if you are to demo and rebuild it. The subway tracks are directly above the mezzanine level meaning that any attempt to demolish that area would demolish the subway tracks. You also have a second exit running directly behind the bus bays out to Warden and the main entrance is via the kiss and ride directly beside the bus bays.

In order to demolish Warden Station you would need to turn back at Vic Park.

Plans in the past for Warden Station that I I have seen had a new island bus terminal in the south parking lot with the existing terminal demolished and sold for development.

It can't be impossible to update the subway station part without shutting it down.

 

[Richard White]

Plans in the past for Warden Station that I I have seen had a new island bus terminal in the south parking lot with the existing terminal demolished and sold for development.

It can't be impossible to update the subway station part without shutting it down.

Not impossible but not ideal.

I used VP daily when they tore down the bays and that wasn't fun. It was messy and dusty.

I watched them bring down Bay 1 from Albion.. that thing made a hell of a boom.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

In order to make Warden AODA compliant you need 11 elevators (9 for the bus bays, 1 to/from the subway platform and 1 to/from street level). Combine that with the fact that station was built as a terminal and has all the surplus spaces to show for it. You need to keep in mind that there is a massive corridor that runs behind the stores and behind the escalators to the subway platform.

The station is aging, it is overbuilt for its current needs and is in need of repairs (the windows are busted, the station mezzanine leaks and the exterior cladding is slowly being replaced by wood in spots).

That said you really cannot by-pass Warden if you are to demo and rebuild it. The subway tracks are directly above the mezzanine level meaning that any attempt to demolish that area would demolish the subway tracks. You also have a second exit running directly behind the bus bays out to Warden and the main entrance is via the kiss and ride directly beside the bus bays.

In order to demolish Warden Station you would need to turn back at Vic Park.

I don't think that they plan to keep the current setup for the buss bays at all. They are very likely to be torn down and replaced like the one at Victoria park station was.

Not impossible but not ideal.

I used VP daily when they tore down the bays and that wasn't fun. It was messy and dusty.

I watched them bring down Bay 1 from Albion.. that thing made a hell of a boom.

Yup I remember using it too as Victoria park and Main Street station are the ones I use most.

 

[drum118]

Line 1: Finch to Sheppard-Yonge full closure December 4 to 11

 

[drum118]

TTC to close portion of Line 1 for 10 days to speed up ATC installation

Nov. 30, 2020

Beginning Fri., Dec. 4 at 11 p.m., the TTC will be closing the portion of Line 1 between Finch and Sheppard-Yonge stations for tunnel improvements that will accelerate installation of the ATC signal system. The closure will take place in two phases:

- The first phase will run for seven days between Finch and Sheppard-Yonge stations, ending on Fri., Dec. 11 at the end of service.
- The second phase will see the closure extend from Finch Station to St Clair Station on the weekend of Dec. 12/13. Regular service will resume across the system by 6 a.m. on Mon., Dec. 14, 2020.

"I know these closures are frustrating, but the TTC is doing this work now during the pandemic, while subway ridership is dramatically reduced, to save years in the long run," said Mayor John Tory. "I want to thank our TTC workers for doing all they can to accelerate the installation of the ATC signal system. These upgrades will help provide a more reliable subway ride for more riders."

The TTC is capitalizing on reduced ridership during the COVID-19 pandemic to carry out this much-needed work, saving more than two years of early nightly closure shifts. During the closure, crews will be performing vital state-of-good-repair work, including tunnel lining repairs, track remediation, asbestos removal and station cleaning, as well as ATC signal upgrades.

"While subway ridership is low, we are proactively accelerating capital work on Line 1 to reduce our state-of-good repair backlog and improve service for TTC passengers. This innovative approach will result in remarkable cost and time savings, reducing the project timeline for necessary tunnel improvements for several years," said TTC Chair Jaye Robinson.

Shuttle buses will run frequently throughout the closure. Customers can expect bus service every 60 seconds during peak periods and very consistent service to continue throughout the day. Service levels have been designed based on current customer volumes.

Customers travelling into the city are encouraged to start their journey at Sheppard-Yonge Station instead of Finch Station, if possible, to avoid the closure area. Customers are also able to use the University side of Line 1 as an alternative.

"We are taking this opportunity to make the best of our reduced ridership and complete imperative state-of-good-repair work in the subway system while inconveniencing as few customers as possible," said TTC CEO Rick Leary. "This work will put our crews ahead several years in their progress of modernizing the system and providing the best possible service for our customers."

North York Centre Station will be closed from 11 p.m. on Dec. 4 until 6 a.m. on Dec. 14. All other stations will remain open for fare sales and connection to Line 4 and surface routes.

Customers who require Wheel-Trans service can speak with any TTC customer service staff member for assistance.

Customers should remember that masks or face coverings are mandatory while travelling the TTC for those customers who are able to wear one. More information is available here: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ttc.ca%2FCOVID-19%2FMasks%2Findex.jsp&data=04%7C01%7C%7C544903462f6641ef206d08d8956b2bab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637423634804606523%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=vyrsEzxn7uVqvmhVcnshbE%2Bx8n7AgVeedcutZyInTEY%3D&reserved=0

The TTC is using a variety of tactics to ensure customers are aware of this extended closure and to minimize the inconvenience as much as possible. Customers looking for more information or assistance planning their trips are advised to visit ttc.ca or call customer service at 416-393-4636.

 

[Richard White]

Beginning Fri., Dec. 4 at 11 p.m., the TTC will be closing the portion of Line 1 between Finch and Sheppard-Yonge stations for tunnel improvements that will accelerate installation of the ATC signal system. The closure will take place in two phases:

I thought I read somewhere that the closure was asbestos related.

 

[drum118]

I thought I read somewhere that the closure was asbestos related.

That was my understanding as well. May go hand and hand with this shut down, with asbestos being done first/last.

 

[DSC]

I thought I read somewhere that the closure was asbestos related.

That's probably why the TTC announcement above says so. They are also adding on other things best done when there is no service.