TTC: Other Items (catch all)

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Insofar as one believes the TTC is hitting its desired target of 75% on average, one would hope that these stations would result in a more demanding target. At the very least 80%, and 85% sounds better to me.

I find it hard to believe Streetcar cleanliness surpassed levels in the 2019. What were they measuring, 510?

AoD

 

[Mihairokov]

I find it hard to believe Streetcar cleanliness surpassed levels in the 2019. What were they measuring, 510?

AoD

I actually find streetcars to be generally pretty clean all things considered. Managed to ride a brand new car the other day so that was cheating a bit.

 

[nfitz]

I actually find streetcars to be generally pretty clean all things considered. Managed to ride a brand new car the other day so that was cheating a bit.

The streetcars aren't terrible - but the bum living on the back seat could do with the occasional wash at the terminals.

 

[Mihairokov]

The streetcars aren't terrible - but the bum living on the back seat could do with the occasional wash at the terminals.

Does it make you feel better posting about the less fortunate in this way?

If this has been running for several months maybe someone can give us a critique? Are these stations cleaner, do they have LED lighting yet? have the platform tactile edges been repaired?

I haven't noticed anything substantially different at Dundas. Maybe it's a bit more orderly than usual? Usually it's crammed with people and i'm just doing my best to exit asap. Seem to recall noticing cleaning staff at the station regularly.

 

[nfitz]

Does it make you feel better posting about the less fortunate in this way?

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Less fortunate or not, the smell of crack from the back of the streetcar IS NOT CLEAN. I'm really surprised that the cleaniness is being rated higher than 2019, given the utter mess that is often present at the back of the car. And that's at the best of times - there's also the occasions when I've seen people urinating on the back door ... from inside.

Less fortunate ... they seem to be very fortunate that the TTC no longer enforces any of it's bylaws - except when the non-homeless don't pay their fare (from which the homeless are exempt).

Yeah, perhaps that sounds harsh - but the TTC shouldn't be running an alternate shelter system. Do you think @Mihairokov that Ikea should are letting homeless people sleep in their showroom? Do you criticize them?

 

[T3G]

I find it hard to believe Streetcar cleanliness surpassed levels in the 2019. What were they measuring, 510?

AoD

I think even the 510 is fairly disreputable, just on account of the sheer level of passenger turn over.

509, maybe. But that stock can run on another route the next day, so even then it's swings and roundabouts. Or the 508

 

[kotsy]

Here's a handful of shots of the Warden Station bus bay demolition.

And a shot of the Russell Yard expansion.

 

[cplchanb]

Here's a handful of shots of the Warden Station bus bay demolition.



And a shot of the Russell Yard expansion.

part of the game is trying to find where you put your watermark signature

 

[RapidTransit]

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Less fortunate or not, the smell of crack from the back of the streetcar IS NOT CLEAN. I'm really surprised that the cleaniness is being rated higher than 2019, given the utter mess that is often present at the back of the car. And that's at the best of times - there's also the occasions when I've seen people urinating on the back door ... from inside.

Less fortunate ... they seem to be very fortunate that the TTC no longer enforces any of it's bylaws - except when the non-homeless don't pay their fare (from which the homeless are exempt).

Yeah, perhaps that sounds harsh - but the TTC shouldn't be running an alternate shelter system. Do you think @Mihairokov that Ikea should are letting homeless people sleep in their showroom? Do you criticize them?

1000% agree.

There needs to be a strong arm to get them off the system.
If they assault me even the police will have me second guessing if I should go through with the charge. But if I hit them, the whole city will be up my ass about hitting a homeless person.

Not sure why there's a tolerance for them on public transit. Too many legitimate vulnerable members of society that feel uncomfortable when they're making a home for themselves on the streetcars. And they pretty much smile at you knowing they can get away with it.

There was a time when I was more tolerant of them, maybe beacsuse it wasn't such a major issue. The off one or two. Now it's like every corner of the system as them. To the point where TTC had shelter buses, really encouraging them in the system.

 

[RapidTransit]

Here's a handful of shots of the Warden Station bus bay demolition.
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And a shot of the Russell Yard expansion.
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Yea it was a bad design, but I'll actually miss it. Just the nostalgia of it.

 

[kvvoyage]

I've been commuting daily on Line 2 between Victoria Park and Kennedy since September 2024, and I've realised the time it takes to complete this trip has gotten gradually longer. 10 minutes used to be more than enough for me to get there and make my surface connection, but for the 3 weeks or so it's been around 15 and even 20 once.

Is there any specific reason for this other than the recent RSZ (I assume there are physical constraints to speeding up the turnaround at Kennedy)?

 

[Mr.Tang]

1000% agree.

There needs to be a strong arm to get them off the system.
If they assault me even the police will have me second guessing if I should go through with the charge. But if I hit them, the whole city will be up my ass about hitting a homeless person.

Not sure why there's a tolerance for them on public transit. Too many legitimate vulnerable members of society that feel uncomfortable when they're making a home for themselves on the streetcars. And they pretty much smile at you knowing they can get away with it.

There was a time when I was more tolerant of them, maybe beacsuse it wasn't such a major issue. The off one or two. Now it's like every corner of the system as them. To the point where TTC had shelter buses, really encouraging them in the system.

Chiming in - for me, this is the biggest issue on the TTC. We spend a lot of time debating expansion dreams and all that - but I just want to get on the subway an not face mental health concerns pretty much every time I ride (which is at least twice a day every day). I am not sure where a better place is - presumably a shelter -but I can not believe the next best place for them is in a metal container hurtling under the ground with a trapped group of innocent bystanders. Metal containers that are integral to a system that millions of citizens depend on for daily life...

 

[drum118]

Chiming in - for me, this is the biggest issue on the TTC. We spend a lot of time debating expansion dreams and all that - but I just want to get on the subway an not face mental health concerns pretty much every time I ride (which is at least twice a day every day). I am not sure where a better place is - presumably a shelter -but I can not believe the next best place for them is in a metal container hurtling under the ground with a trapped group of innocent bystanders. Metal containers that are integral to a system that millions of citizens depend on for daily life...

Sadly, its the norm these days for most NA systems. Some US systems are worse than TTC. You see it in Europe as well, but not as bad as NA and not on every system from what we saw in 2012 and 2022.