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Not a fan of the holier than thou attitude a lot of people here talk. As if nobody has every made a mistake on UT

You don't have to be a fan of anything - said member is responsible for making decisions for a system with a billion dollar budget that millions of citizens depend on, if that's not a place to demand excellence and keen attention, where is?

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I'm pointing out unless you're their physican we don't always have the facts. It reminds me of this story


I knew you are going to drag this up - one is a local fare collector; the other is responsible for decisions that can cost millions. Level of responsibility comes with commensurate increase in expectations. So if the commissioner napped through it all, didn’t pay attention to any of the details or ask pertinent questions and voted - who is responsible for any errors and costs that may arise? The city.

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I knew you are going to drag this up - one is a local fare collector; the other is responsible for a decisions that can cost millions. Level of responsibility comes with commensurate increase in expectations.

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I brought it up because I've dealt with a similar thing in person. (Sales rep got a lot less responsive, my manager rearmed her over the phone for being "lazy", turns out their daughter had died and we found out though a gofundme)

We should all try to be a bit kinder to each other!
 
If you have a medical condition that means you can't stay awake on the job, whether you're a fare collector or a commissioner, you should be on medical leave rather than working. The TTC has comprehensive benefits. And a culture that permits someone to sleep on the job rather than figuring out what the issue is and addressing it is a culture that has to be changed. It's not being unkind.
 
If you have a medical condition that means you can't stay awake on the job, whether you're a fare collector or a commissioner, you should be on medical leave rather than working. The TTC has comprehensive benefits. And a culture that permits someone to sleep on the job rather than figuring out what the issue is and addressing it is a culture that has to be changed. It's not being unkind.
because our healthcare is amazing at diagnosing people right now.....
 
And it's always the TTCriders that get interviewed.

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Presumably because they have provided the local papers/broadcasters with a reliable way to get hold of a spokesperson who will provide reasonable coherent responses to questions/a good quote, which is a lot less effort than going to a station and trying to persuade randoms to stop for a vox pop.
 
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Presumably because they have provided the local papers/broadcasters with a reliable way to get hold of a spokesperson who will provide reasonable coherent responses to questions/a good quote, which is a lot less effort than going to a station and trying to persuade randoms to stop for a vox pop.
Which is important when "going five minutes down the street to interview people about something" is outside your budget and resources, like it is for our local media now.
Better to ask someone else to journalism for you, and then cut and paste their response without further review.
 
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Not sure where to put this but it is of general interest around these parts:
Brisbane, Australia is conducting a six-month long experiment with a dramatic slash of fares on all modes of public transit, even including commuter rail, down to 50 cents per ride.


It will be interesting to see the results. Per the linked article and others I have read, the state of Queensland is generally considered to have a poor public transit network, and the regular ridership has not returned post-COVID. One said that only 35% of people in Brisbane (metro population: 2.68 million per Wiki) live near a public transit line that has service at 10 minute or less frequencies.

Another article I read did also mention that this is happening going into an election, so some think it may be only a stunt and if the current government wins again, they will raise the fares back up, maybe not to as high as they were before, but close to it.
 
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Not sure where to put this but it is of general interest around these parts:
Brisbane, Australia is conducting a six-month long experiment with a dramatic slash of fares on all modes of public transit, even including commuter rail, down to 50 cents per ride.


It will be interesting to see the results. Per the linked article and others I have read, the state of Queensland is generally considered to have a poor public transit network, and the regular ridership has not returned post-COVID. One said that only 35% of people in Brisbane (metro population: 2.68 million per Wiki) live near a public transit line that has service at 10 minute or less frequencies.

Another article I read did also mention that this is happening going into an election, so some think it may be only a stunt and if the current government wins again, they will raise the fares back up, maybe not to as high as they were before, but close to it.

The question is whether fares are that strong a determinant of ridership in Toronto for all but short-distance hops. I suspect not - but there might be more of a social case for it given the demographics of transit riders. No one should be unable to use the transit system because they truly couldn't afford to do so.

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Not sure where to put this but it is of general interest around these parts:
Brisbane, Australia is conducting a six-month long experiment with a dramatic slash of fares on all modes of public transit, even including commuter rail, down to 50 cents per ride.


It will be interesting to see the results. Per the linked article and others I have read, the state of Queensland is generally considered to have a poor public transit network, and the regular ridership has not returned post-COVID. One said that only 35% of people in Brisbane (metro population: 2.68 million per Wiki) live near a public transit line that has service at 10 minute or less frequencies.

Another article I read did also mention that this is happening going into an election, so some think it may be only a stunt and if the current government wins again, they will raise the fares back up, maybe not to as high as they were before, but close to it.

I think the bolded above is a critical piece of info here.

The additional piece in Red also matters.

So we have a system that has a low incentive to ride based on service quality and that few people are riding, and that has surplus capacity should ridership rise materially.

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I do think there are some moves around price that could boost ridership here, but we'd need to be prepared to deliver the service to handle that.
 
I do think there are some moves around price that could boost ridership here, but we'd need to be prepared to deliver the service to handle that.

I think some tweaks in the price of both TTC and Green P parking are in order to make transit look like a more attractive option vs driving and parking your car with a small group for non-commuting trips, the subway is pretty much bursting at the seams today at current fare levels. Even mid-day and evenings at current service levels the trains are packed.
 

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