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TTC: Major Operational Issues (Various)

DSC said:
The TTC have an updated page on RSZs https://www.ttc.ca/service-advisories/subway-service/Reduced-Speed-Zones
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I see Warden and Victoria Park there, and it says both ways. I think it was like that for a while. Was on the subway there a few days ago and it wasn’t great, but still a far cry from the section of Line 1 between Eglinton West and Wilson! At least there’s some speed between VP and Warden, and it’s only really slow at literally right by both respective stations.
 
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Richard White said:
Places like NYC do have this capability as they have alternate tracks they can use.

Unfortunately Toronto is not designed with such trackwork and can't simply by-pass construction work.

They tried this with the Wye Junction in 2008 and it was a complete disaster. They diverted trains down University for a seamless transfer.
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If the Sheppard line were extended westward to Sheppard West Station, then wouldn't that allow riders to bypass construction further down the line?

It would allow the TTC to shutdown parts of either University or Yonge while still allowing riders to go North- South.
 
Richard White said:
They tried this with the Wye Junction in 2008 and it was a complete disaster. They diverted trains down University for a seamless transfer.
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They <s>only</s> diverted Bloor and Danforth trains to Museum station. <s>They didn't go any further.</s>

I had no problems on a Saturday afternoon changing at Museum - which I think would be peak. Museum was busy, but no busier that St. George

What were your observations?

Bojaxs said:
If the Sheppard line were extended westward to Sheppard West Station, then wouldn't that allow riders to bypass construction further down the line?

It would allow the TTC to shutdown parts of either University or Yonge while still allowing riders to go North- South.
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It would let you have northbound Yonge trains go from York Mills station to Bayview, but not going through the platform at Sheppard-Yonge. Or eastbound trains from Sheppard West, go south to York Mills, without going through the Sheppard-Yonge platform.

Anything else would require a reversal. It was never designed for that type of operation.
 
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nfitz said:
They only diverted Bloor and Danforth trains to Museum station. They didn't go any further.

I had no problems on a Saturday afternoon changing at Museum - which I think would be peak. Museum was busy, but no busier that St. George

What were your observations?
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When they did the transfer at Museum due to Tunnel Work at St George they did allow people to go as far as Osgoode and St Patrick.

They used the pocket and centre tracks in those locations to turn trains.

The issue was the wye junction. Museum Station wasn't able to handle what was in effect 3 lines merging there.

Trains were held inside the wye and at upper St George until a slot was available at Museum.

It was coordinated chaos.
 
nfitz said:
They only diverted Bloor and Danforth trains to Museum station. They didn't go any further.

I had no problems on a Saturday afternoon changing at Museum - which I think would be peak. Museum was busy, but no busier that St. George

What were your observations?
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The TTC actually did this diversion 2 or 3 times (2 at least). I recall it worked fairly well, certainly better than doing a large scale bus substitution (which would have probably been Ossington to Broadview), though of course it would not have been possible with weekday peak frequencies. They certainly would not have repeated it if it had been an unmitigated disaster.

With the different signal systems on both lines I don't think the TTC would be able to do this again, unless they ran all Line 2 service with TRs during the diversion.
 
Richard White said:
When they did the transfer at Museum due to Tunnel Work at St George they did allow people to go as far as Osgoode and St Patrick.

They used the pocket and centre tracks in those locations to turn trains.

The issue was the wye junction. Museum Station wasn't able to handle what was in effect 3 lines merging there.

Trains were held inside the wye and at upper St George until a slot was available at Museum.

It was coordinated chaos.
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I must have forgot - I just changed at Museum. Trains seemed fine to me. Service was reduced, sure - but I think it's an exagration to say it was a complete disaster. I've certainly sat still on the MTA, during some strange detour in Brooklyn, that wasn't normal service.
 
beatle04 said:
21 RSZ’s on the tracks, 21 RSZ’s, take one down pass it around, now there’s 22 RSZ’s on the tracks.

(Now there’s a RSZ southbound from Summerhill to Rosedale)
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DSC said:
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This organization is pretty much a dysfunctional mess at this point. They virtually havent met most of their targeted restricted speed zone removal dates:

Is the TTC Board going to hold them accountable? I highly doubt it.
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