TTC: Bloor Danforth Line 2 West Extension(s)

[BurlOak]

I am assuming that Eglinton is a fully grade-separated LRT, and so should be the STC to Kipling line.

If Eglinton is on street LRT, would bus share the ROW with LRT?

 

[gweed123]

I am assuming that Eglinton is a fully grade-separated LRT, and so should be the STC to Kipling line.

If Eglinton is on street LRT, would bus share the ROW with LRT?

It would require wider dedicated lanes, but there's no technical reason why they couldn't. This setup was proposed for the initial O-Train (the plan that was canned). The N-S LRT was to share the same transit lanes through downtown Ottawa as the E-W Transitway buses.

I've also proposed this setup for Dundas between Kipling (or Cloverdale) and Hurontario. Running multiple technology types in parallel in the same corridor makes so much sense.

For a general configuration, I'd like to see 2 lanes in between stops, with a 3rd reversible passing lane implemented in the middle at all stations. That way, a BRT can bypass the station even if there's an LRT stopped in it. It would require some coordination and alertness from the bus drivers to not head on each other, but I think common sense can prevail there. People pass to the left into opposing traffic on highways all the time, and the frequency there is much higher. If there's a bus coming the other way, suck it up and wait until the LRT in front of you moves.

This setup would allow MiWay buses to in essence run express from Renforth to Mt Dennis, or from Hurontario to Kipling.

 

[denfromoakvillemilton]

Has there been any nose on this apart from here?

 

[TransitBart]

Has there been any nose on this apart from here?

No nose, but some mouth.

 

[TransitBart]

Has there been any nose on this apart from here?

I am thinking you meant 'noise', no?

 

[denfromoakvillemilton]

I am thinking you meant 'noise', no?

Yeah, I should not type messages on the phone anymore!!

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

Along with this stretch...

Re-posting Jason's brilliant drone pictures from the Kip District thread. All of this corridor may eventually become dense and high-rise.

Westward extension for the subway would be forward thinking.

 

[W. K. Lis]

A reason for a Line 2 extension to Sherway? See link.

New Submission Reactivates High-Rise Plan at Sherway Gardens

 

[nfitz]

For 904 units? No.

 

[junctionist]

For 904 units? No.

There's still more land that could be redeveloped, plus thousands of existing jobs in the area, a shopping mall of regional significance, and a hospital. Mississauga would have a better connection to the subway for its buses. Toronto commuters and residents using or living around Dundas Street west of Islington would no longer have to deal with all the Mississauga Transit buses going to and from Islington Station, increasing traffic, noise and pollution along Dundas Street West without serving local communities.

 

[crs1026]

Toronto commuters and residents using or living around Dundas Street west of Islington would no longer have to deal with all the Mississauga Transit buses going to and from Islington Station, increasing traffic, noise and pollution along Dundas Street West without serving local communities.

That's a case for extension to Cloverdale, yes....but few of those MT buses go near Sherway.

I would rather see us steer development towards the STC for the next few years, until we know there is enough going on out there to recoup the subway investment in that direction. Stepping up development at Sherway, on the premise of a subway extension, seems to be counterproductive to that thrust. Maybe in another ten years.

- Paul

 

[drum118]

There's still more land that could be redeveloped, plus thousands of existing jobs in the area, a shopping mall of regional significance, and a hospital. Mississauga would have a better connection to the subway for its buses. Toronto commuters and residents using or living around Dundas Street west of Islington would no longer have to deal with all the Mississauga Transit buses going to and from Islington Station, increasing traffic, noise and pollution along Dundas Street West without serving local communities.

If you were talking 9,000 unites, then there is a strong based to support a station. How long do you think it will take to build 9,000 units??

Based on what there now, what been proposed and what could be built in the area, you are looking at decades before a station is require.

The only route MT would service this station would be the #4 which see poor ridership in the first place. All the rest will go to Kipling in 2019/20, but would be better if at Cloverdale.

 

[W. K. Lis]

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Based on what there now, what been proposed and what could be built in the area, you are looking at decades before a station is require...

At the speed that rapid transit gets developed here, might as well start now. That way, if it takes decades just to plan, it just might be ready when we do need it.

 

[gweed123]

For 904 units? No.

If these units were being built in the Honeydale/Cloverdale area, then I think it would help the case for the western extension, but Sherway? Yes I agree that's a bit of a stretch.

 

[junctionist]

If you were talking 9,000 unites, then there is a strong based to support a station. How long do you think it will take to build 9,000 units??

Based on what there now, what been proposed and what could be built in the area, you are looking at decades before a station is require.

The only route MT would service this station would be the #4 which see poor ridership in the first place. All the rest will go to Kipling in 2019/20, but would be better if at Cloverdale.

The number of people living around a station is just one factor in transit demand. The number of jobs and destinations around a station is also important. There's a significant number of people that come to the area to work and shop but who don't live there.

If the extension also meant a stop at Cloverdale for Mississauga Transit buses, that would also improve transportation for both Toronto and Mississauga residents by making the trip to the subway shorter and getting rid of Mississauga Transit buses on Dundas Street (east of Cloverdale). If this subway extension could be built on the surface following the existing railway corridor and industrial parks, why not invest in it? It would improve the region's transportation infrastructure.