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I dunno about this 'condos are cutting off the waterfront' argument. If that's the case, then one could argue that Vancouver's waterfront is completely cut off as well.
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...same with New York, Chicago, Singapore, Hong Kong, Sydney... all have high rises extending right to the last street before the water.

The condos are improving access to the water by replacing the windswept vacant lots with actual streetscapes. There's no logical reason to have a nice water view from the Gardiner or from the financial district a kilometre away. I do agree that some more commercial mixed in would be better though.
 
I believe that the condos are a good thing. If only hope as more condos get put in that each development has a few restaurants/shops/cafe's in the bottom of each one.
If this were the case the street life would be enhanced and the 30 or 40 some-odd stories above the street wouldn't change what was happening at ground level.
 
Waterclub made a noticible difference to me last summer when it finally opened. The retail was busy.
 
The problem isn't having condos per se - the problem is having a fairly socioeconomically homogenous population in an area that has little or no urban fabric previously.

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My brain hurts just from reading "socioeconomically homogenous."
 
The 1st construction crane has been erected for Phase 1 of West Harbour City and is now pouring the very deepest levels of underground concrete foundations (known in construction language as the concrete footings) for the tower building, far below even the lowest level of parking. Building the foundations is an important and somewhat time-consuming process, so don't expect to see anything visible above ground for some months. This first crane is just one of the 4 giant cranes scheduled to be erected on site during the construction of Phases 1 & 2, which will be built in tandem. As you probably know, the sales office is closed now to permit demolition of the balance of the original Molson Brewery building and make way for construction of Phase 2, part of which occupies the lands where the old Brewery building was originally built.

As you may have seen, Phase 2 pre-construction demolition work is moving along as swiftly as posibble, with about 50% of the sales centre building demolition complete. This demolition work is being carried out in an environmentally sensitive manner, to permit as much of the old building to be recycled as steel ingots and crusher aggregate for roadbeds and other new construction uses, so that as little as possible ends up as refuse and landfill. Once this demolition is complete, shoring and excavation for this second phase of West Harbour City will begin.


It was an email.
 
Some pictures from December 27th.
Not much progress on the structure. Perhaps they're concentrating on the excavation.





 
achender, thanks for the pictures. Anybody who hasn't been down there the site is massive. Only second to Cityplace in size if you include all the side by side developments.
 
^ The Fort York lands is a vast improvement over CP. If the final product turns out with any similarity to the Secondary Plan, then it will be a great addition to the urban landscape. When multiple developers are involved in a large tract of land such as this, then it allows for (some) diversity in architecture and offerings.
 
^ Agreed about multiple developers. As well, each is more inclined to maximize their density and lot coverage, which should result in a decent streetwall.
 
What year did this underachieving mess of a project commence? It can't possibly be profitable at this point given that Plazahore had to sell most of the units at 2001/2 prices or whenever units first went on sale. With the rising cost of construction, not to mention to apparent major delays, this can't possibly be a money maker for anyone.
 
AndrewJM3D said:
Would love to see them hand it over to Context or Lanterra.
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The area is way too much vertical subdivision for Context. They only build in real neighborhoods, not landfill sites.

Lanterra sure- they are no standards of quality.
 
What year did this underachieving mess of a project commence? It can't possibly be profitable at this point given that Plazahore had to sell most of the units at 2001/2 prices or whenever units first went on sale. With the rising cost of construction, not to mention to apparent major delays, this can't possibly be a money maker for anyone.
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Yes, the only explanation possible for any development in the city is massive money loss. Kudos for making such an astute observation on the basis of a muddy hole in the ground.
 
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