Toronto U of T: Academic Wood Tower | 77m | 14s | U of T | Patkau

ProjectEnd said:
This city just refuses not to suck...

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I have less of a problem with $7.95 for pastry w/top tier ingredients, or that takes some real cheffing to assemble.

We don't see what the Pear Ricotta cake looked like, but those certainly aren't pricey ingredients.

I will give my my price reference as a slice of Rahier Opera Cake. That's also $7.95 in most places. I consider that a tad stiff, but at least there's some really good work on display there.

If that's the benchmark, you're not pricing a very basic fruit-cheese cake at a penny over $5.95 a portion.

For reference, this is Rahier's Opera Cake:

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Source: https://www.pusateris.com/137900-Rahier-Opera (I note Pusteri's would like $9.49 for this piece.... for which I have two words that would get me moderated, LOL)

Traditional dessert layered with coffee caramel buttercream, chocolate ganache, and coffee-soaked almond biscuit.
 
Northern Light said:
I have less of a problem with $7.95 for pastry w/top tier ingredients, or that takes some real cheffing to assemble.

We don't see what the Pear Ricotta cake looked like, but those certainly aren't pricey ingredients.

I will give my my price reference as a slice of Rahier Opera Cake. That's also $7.95 in most places. I consider that a tad stiff, but at least there's some really good work on display there.

If that's the benchmark, you're not pricing a very basic fruit-cheese cake at a penny over $5.95 a portion.

For reference, this is Rahier's Opera Cake:

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Source: https://www.pusateris.com/137900-Rahier-Opera (I note Pusteri's would like $9.49 for this piece.... for which I have two words that would get me moderated, LOL)

Traditional dessert layered with coffee caramel buttercream, chocolate ganache, and coffee-soaked almond biscuit.
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The issue with $7.95 is that 80% of the population can't justify spending that much on a pastry. We all like nice things but when a good chunk of the population budget $8 (or less) for an entire meal one has to wonder what kind of city we're building. It's great that these things are available but I would rather have a city where people don't have to shop at Dollarama for groceries and/or skip meals to avoid eviction.

I imagine most people on UT have a profession/careers. We lose touch with how the majority of people live. $8 pasty might as well be $100 pastry for them. They'll only ever experience that looking through a shop window,
 
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isaidso said:
The issue with $7.95 is that 80% of the population can't justify spending that much on a pastry. We all like nice things but when a good chunk of the population budget $8 (or less) for an entire meal one has to wonder what kind of city we're building. It's great that these things are available but I'd rather have a city where people don't have to shop at Dollarama for groceries or skip meals to avoid eviction.
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There is no disagreement that incomes from the median down are too low.

There are market adjustments (fewer temporary workers/less labour supply) as well as higher minimum wages required.

There is certainly far too much poverty in this city, and a variety of social programs are also required.

However, the people in this thread, for the most part, are financially comfortable; and that cost, for a good quality pastry, is not out of line.

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I will add, however, addressing supply management cost problems (in the context of pastry, over-priced dairy and eggs) does play some role in prices being higher than they ought to be.

I think you could probably shave $1 per portion quite safely, if not $1.50 were those inputs more reasonably priced.

Retail rents are another key factor in pricing.......but I digress.... this is the thread about the Academic Wood Tower, not the price of pastry....... I take my share of the blame for running w/the tangent, but perhaps we could now return to our regular programming.
 
The steel frames would be the cores - either or both elevators and emergency exit stairs.
ProjectEnd said:
This city just refuses not to suck...

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You could go to No Frills and get a full sized bundt cake for that price.

The Hive in Vancouver is similar to this one - steel cores, so thicker cross-bracing, etc. than the UBC residence, but is shorter than the UofT tower.
You can see that the lack of a stabilizing concrete core required heavier cross-bracing on the UofT tower compared to the shorter Hive building.


But BCIT Student Housing also had steel cores and wasn't as chunky.

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BCIT Tall Timber Student Housing - Fast + Epp

BCIT Tall Timber Student Housing is a 12 storey tower configured as two rectangular wings and constructed using prefabricated CLT panels.
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